SLI Delay Reason? DALPA Looking to be ONE Union Immediately?

Voice Of Reason

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Wonder if they will pull it off before the new (alleged) Dec 20 deadline, be one union, and let Moak "negotiate" a decision for their whole group (DL/NW)??????? You would think this would wait until SOC....Would keep on top of this one...
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Labor tensions rise after Delta-Northwest merger

By KELLY YAMANOUCHI
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
The Air Line Pilots Association and Delta Air Lines have submitted federal filings that are sparking labor conflict just days after Delta closed its merger with Northwest Airlines.
The pilots union submitted an application to the National Mediation Board seeking a determination that Delta and Northwest make up a single carrier. Delta agreed with that request in its own filing.
If the National Mediation Board determines that Delta and Northwest are a single carrier across the company, as Delta contends, unions would have 14 days to show interest from at least 35 percent of employees in a craft or class to trigger union representation elections. Northwest is highly unionized, but at Delta, pilots were the only major unionized group.
The International Association of Machinists wants the carriers considered as separate for now, which preserves the existing unionized groups.
The Association of Flight Attendants also plans to file an objection.
The Air Line Pilots Association already represents both Delta and Northwest pilots, but the pilots union agreed to make the filing as part of a collective bargaining agreement with Delta. It’s another step in the process to become a single pilot bargaining unit.
Machinists union general vice president of transportation Robert Roach said he thinks the filings are premature and could give Delta “the opportunity to de-unionize the rest of the labor groups.”
If the National Mediation Board grants single carrier status across the company, “We would be forced into an election before the employees have an opportunity to see what the combined carrier is like,” Roach said.
Delta said it believes procedures for addressing union representation and integrating employee seniority lists “should begin promptly” so employees and customers can reap more benefits of the merger, said Delta spokesman Kent Landers.
Meanwhile, Delta Chief Executive Richard Anderson said the company will increase pay for nonunion employees starting Jan. 1, when union employees will also see pay increases from their contracts.


 

ACL65PILOT

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I think that ALPA policy dictates that this occur. I cannot remember how many days after a merger, but it is not that long.
 

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This has nothing to do with the NWA pilots, or SLI.

Both the NWA and DAL pilots are far ahead of where they would normally be in a merger. We already have a joint representative (ALPA), a joint contract and are very close to a joint list.

ACL is correct there is a tight time line for a single carrier petition with the NLRB, although typically these get done when a group of represented employees are ready to proceed.

The pilots are ready. The other unions knew this was coming. They should have been ready. Even so, they will have their opportunity.

Don't know if others have read the fliers that the Association of Machinists leave all over the parking lot and the airport for the rampers, but it's pretty ugly stuff.
 
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VOR,

This has nothing to do with DALPA/NALPA. This is the company forcing the OTHER employee groups into voting for or against continuing union representation. NWA has a lot of unions, Delta only the pilots and schedulers.
 

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Exactly and they want to get the vote over before they start to mix groups. DAL management thinks that they have a fairly good chance of voting these unions out if they can force them to a vote soon. They know the longer this goes on the harder it will be for them to have the employees vote these guys out.
 

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Something is happening on January 20th? hmmmm.

We knew the airline wanted this merger done before the change in administrations. If they had already thought through this, they're pretty darn smart.
 

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VOR,

This has nothing to do with DALPA/NALPA. This is the company forcing the OTHER employee groups into voting for or against continuing union representation. NWA has a lot of unions, Delta only the pilots and schedulers.
Hmmm Sure sounds like it:


"By KELLY YAMANOUCHI
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
The Air Line Pilots Association and Delta Air Lines have submitted federal filings that are sparking labor conflict just days after Delta closed its merger with Northwest Airlines.
The pilots union submitted an application to the National Mediation Board seeking a determination that Delta and Northwest make up a single carrier. Delta agreed with that request in its own filing.
If the National Mediation Board determines that Delta and Northwest are a single carrier across the company, as Delta contends, unions would have 14 days to show interest from at least 35 percent of employees in a craft or class to trigger union representation elections. "
 

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Heyas,

Agreed with the above posters. This has nothing to do with ALPA or the SLI.

The company needs this declaration to get the ball rolling on representation issues with the other groups.

Single carrier status is the first step in that process. The only thing ALPA was saying is "yep, the company is right, it's a single carrier".

It's not always about the pilots.

Hijacked thread due to Joe Merchant in 3....2.....1....

Nu
 

PeanuckleCRJ

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How long until VOR mentions Ford and Harrison?
 

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Moak, by the way, is a nice guy. Ask him what he did hours after Katrina hit New Orleans.
 

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I think the purpose of this filing is to start giving the IAM and AFA the boot. Delta needs relief from the requirement that NWA planes be ground handled and maintained under the union agreements. As it stands now for example, if they move the 747 to ATL, it would need to be handled by IAM workers.
 

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This filing is great news. The other unions knew this was coming. Time for them to sh*t or get off the pot.
 
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