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lionelmandrake

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Let this be the last word on the Pro Pilot article of April 2003 on the UPI flight department. My name is Jack Nisen. You may know me better as the guy who supposedly slept in the back of the specially equipped "sleeper" Lear 35 in London or wherever the event was supposed to have taken place. I have caught so much flack over this piece of fiction that I feel I must respond to it with the truth.
First of all, I have been into London in a Lear before, but it was into Northholt and it was while I was flying with Flight International, not UPI. While there, I have been put up in a hotel, or quick turned back to Naples Italy where I was based. I have never been "across the pond" in a Lear.
Secondly, I have slept in the back of the Lear, but only while it was in flight, and usually on top of several hundred pounds of cancelled checks. Those of you who haul checks know exactly what I'm talking about. By the way, if you really want to do it right, in the Lear you can lay the divan seat down , and if you have no baggae in the aft baggae compartment, there is room enough for a six foot plus person to lay down if you lay corner to corner. Not that I have ever done such a thing!
Thirdly, note my conspicuous lack of presence on the cover of the issue in question. My boss, Bill Killabrew, wanted me to come down to the airport to interview for the article and to be in the photo. I wanted no part of it, and forcefully declined. Killabrew, being the egomaniac that he is, fabricated just about everything in that story to inflate his already gigantic ego. The only truth in that article was the part about not having any health benefits. Killabrew is one cheap bastard!
Fourthly, "specially equipped" Lear with bunks? What kind of an idiot would believe such a thing. The only specially equipped, "bunked" Lears I have ever flown were of the air ambulance variety up in Alaska.
Fortunately, I no longer work for Killabrew; six months was as long as I could stand his antics. What is amazing to me is that a national magazine like Pro Pilot could put such un substantiated crap into print and damage my reputation, as apparently they did judging from the nasty letters I read concerning my working for such a jerk. I wrote Pro pilot a letter similar to this post, but as yet have recieved no reply. I doubt they ever will.
I just want to set the record straight. I am no time building doormat who whores himself off for flight time. Anybody who would do what I supposedly did in that article is certainly doing a great disservice to the industry as a whole. I AM the guy who wrote a scathing rebuttle to an article in another national aviation rag about how great Ameri Flight was. At that time AmeriFlight was letting foreigners pay $30 thousand dollars to sit right seat in a Metroliner and build time. They used this extra income to underbid other freight haulers, including the one I was working for at the time, and steal routes from them.
I AM the guy who threw a Norwegian off of the crew bus in Cincinnatti because he was paying for his 135 time AND stealing bunks in the crew house.
I AM the guy who HAD a friend that bought a job at Continental Express. I say HAD because I dissowned him after that.
So let geeks like Killabrew rant their delusional heads off about real and imaginary aviation exploits. I don't care. My friends in this business know where I stand, and now so do you.
Thanks for listening, Jack Nisen.
 
Thanks Jack,
We all were wondering what the he!! was going on at UPI, we all thought it was Pro Pilot playing a practical joke, you know April Fools day. What exactly does unecumbered mean? That guy sounds lika a real a$$hole. And speaking of a$$holes I think T-Gates must be one of those Pay for traiining, or bought his job or even mommy and daddy gave him the money. Because I sure don't know of how any one these days would have 800 hours and be flying a regional jet.
 
Great post Jack! Many see through Murray Smith's publication. While it does present "some" worth while articles, the flight department profiles are most often grossly exaggerated. It cracks me up that every month when a department profile comes out these boards are flooded with questions on how to get on with said company.

Our flight department has turned down numerous requests from ProPilot to be in their mag. Any company that would profile Larry Flynt will never get our company's endorsement or consideration.

Thanks for shining the light.

Regards,
2000Flyer
 
yes, that article was pretty funny.

but really, everyone in this business read between the lines and knew exactly what you have just told us. Nobody was fooled by this operation.....

it sounds like a bottom feeder operation, maybe a great place for a new guy to grab a type rating and LEAVE ASAP!! each job has a purpose I suppose. It certainly did not sound anything like a career job....maybe you thought it woud be???

I agree, PorPilot is 99% garbage...a few good pictures, good humor about some flight departments (like that one), but some of the weather articles, etc.. are worthy of bathroom reading...oh well. At least its free.

OH hey, 2000 flyer...

Whats wrong with Larry Flynt??

:D :D
 
Nice post Jack. I thought the story was a little far fetched.
I quit reading ProPilot soon after that- too much of a pro management slant- also the former UAL scab 'Mr. Aviation' aka Clay Lacy is a regular contributor to their rag.
Best regards,
rj
 
Gulfstream 200 said:

OH hey, 2000 flyer...

Whats wrong with Larry Flynt??

:D :D

Well, his publication is one thing, however, trying to pass him off as some reputable business "anyone" would love to work for is stretching it in my opinion, regardless of his successes. Besides, the guy is a slug liberal, thats reason enough for me:D ;)
 
Considering Enron and some of their sort, maybe Larry IS a reputable business man. At least he doesn't pretend he's innocent.
 
Jack,

Thanks for the update. Thank God you got out of that ridiculous operation - I did a double-take when I read that line about the London trip. Are you still flying Lear 35s? PM me if you like.

Best of luck to you.
 
Jack,

Bravo!

I was one of the responders to the April PP article. My letter got published, I believe, in June.

That same month, or maybe July they did an editorial which defended PPs featured flight department articles.The editorialist stated that all flight departments are works in progress or some such nonsense, and in effect, the reader should not judge a "work in progress".

They have, for years, come up with some of the lamest excuses for flight operations - the Falcon operated from the trunk of a car, Dennis Washington's operation in Montana, etc. etc. And the Flynt article - trying to legitimize a sleezbag lowlife like that speaks volumes about Pro Pilot Magazine.

While I have found some of Pro Pilots stuff informative, it is at the bottom of all the other trade publications. Doesn't come close to B/CA or AIN, or even generalist aviation pubs like AOPA Pilot or Flying.
 

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