SLC to ATL Transition

[IFLYASA]

Looking at the final awards posted today, there are 75 SLC Captains moving to ATL as 700 Captains. Now, if we lose those 13 airplanes and get no 900's, that's alot of Captains and F/O's doing nothing. Something will have to give. And no I don't mean furlough's either. I call total BS on this one from management. We'll either get more 50's from the desert, or keep some 70's. If they want us to grow, there is no sense in furloughs, only to bring back and re-train. B.L and J.A definately have something up there sleeve. Problem is, B.L's body is covered with too many stock options to check his sleeve.

 

[viper548]

Just a shot in the dark but I'm gonna guess -200 flying in IAD for UAL

 

[asayankee]

Looking at the final awards posted today, there are 75 SLC Captains moving to ATL as 700 Captains. Now, if we lose those 13 airplanes and get no 900's, that's alot of Captains and F/O's doing nothing. Something will have to give. And no I don't mean furlough's either. I call total BS on this one from management. We'll either get more 50's from the desert, or keep some 70's. If they want us to grow, there is no sense in furloughs, only to bring back and re-train. B.L and J.A definately have something up there sleeve. Problem is, B.L's body is covered with too many stock options to check his sleeve.

I agree. I doubt there would be any practical way to absorb those pilots without something new in the works. Just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. If it was all about cost saving and such, why would the company leave us so "fat"? I think BL and CT are trying to use the base closure to and everything else to try and coerce the pilot group into concessions. The timing of it all just seems too convenient for them.

 

[ASApuppy]

Agreed! Problem they didn't plan on is because they have chose to close SLC, my price has gone up. ASA could have easily been given the growth planned for SLC. I've been displaced twice now in less than 2 years. I absolutely adore those I work with, but it is all I can do to keep from vomiting knowing I'm making money for this friggen management. I've saved up to survive at least a year on savings, strike benifets, unemployment, collecting cans from garbage dumpsters. I am absolutely ready, willing, and able to shut this place down.

If this was Chicago in the 1930's, BL, and CT would be visited by the "Family".

 

[JettBoii]

If ASA opens up a new base who is going to move there? They'll just close it like the last two.

 

[SuperKooter]

ASA will lose all its 70's by this time next year. You can thank alpa for that, a strike will be the straw that breaks the camels back. I hope you pro-strikers realize this and plan on getting another job and helping those people who lose theirs because of your selfishness.

 

[www.]

I hope you pro-strikers realize this and plan on getting another job and helping those people who lose theirs because of your selfishness.

Takes one to know one.

Have you looked in the mirror?

I have an idea, follow Terry Hayes to the NY Times.

 

[IFLYASA]

ASA will lose all its 70's by this time next year. You can thank alpa for that, a strike will be the straw that breaks the camels back. I hope you pro-strikers realize this and plan on getting another job and helping those people who lose theirs because of your selfishness.

Get back to your Microsoft Flight Simulator.

 

[BuzzSaw]

i don't know about y'all but i make more money doing my side job than i do at ASA!! always have... if we close, we close and i can spend more time doing my side job that makes more money anyway......

it has been a cool time at ASA and i have met a lot of great folks, as well as some bone heads...

BL can have his stock options. Chuck can have his Delta retirement and all those airplanes can go to the desert. who cares. all my experience, knowledge and professionalism cost something, $$$$.

Buzz Saw

 

[7KCAB]

ASA will lose all its 70's by this time next year. You can thank alpa for that, a strike will be the straw that breaks the camels back. I hope you pro-strikers realize this and plan on getting another job and helping those people who lose theirs because of your selfishness.

This guy is unbelievable. Never thought I'd put someone on the ignore list, but this guy has got to go. I agree that he contributes NOTHING productive to ANY of these threads.

 

[79%N1]

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Yawn,.............

 

[SuperKooter]

This guy is unbelievable. Never thought I'd put someone on the ignore list, but this guy has got to go. I agree that he contributes NOTHING productive to ANY of these threads.

You people just don't like what I have to say. The fact that you people get so unhinged shows mw that you know what I'm saying is true.

 

[shamrock]

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BTW, are you challenging me with that avatar, 79%N1?

Last year you might have been successful but you ain't got no chance this time around!

 

[atlcrashpad]

http://www.flyasa.com/

Check out the link to ASA's website. "Leading the industry in growth, commited to a vision."

 

[Ben Dover]

Base closing...

I understand the frustration of having to move or commute. But everytime I've interviewed for an airline job I've been asked whether I'd be willing to work weekends, holidays, and in the location of the companies choosing. And more than once I've had to commute multiple legs to work. Yes, it sucks.

Just wondering why all the anger towards management when I suspect you agreed to this when you were hired?

It's really not unusual in many private and public sectors to be reqired to move every few years. Possibly you all are just venting; and that's fine. But really, didn't ASA warn you of this when you were hired?

 

[Tomct]

Ben, it is ONE thing to close a job site etc. It is QUITE ANOTHER to close the "Most Productive Ones" and continue to THROW MONEY out the window like this mgmnt does. This pilot group has ZERO faith in this mgmnt! JA better wake up or his little project is going to go by the wayside and he will lose a TREMENDOUS amount of money!!

 

[79%N1]

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BTW, are you challenging me with that avatar, 79%N1?

Last year you might have been successful but you ain't got no chance this time around!

I thought you might like that! I like your boy, Basso, but still rootin for Disco!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I understand the frustration of having to move or commute. But everytime I've interviewed for an airline job I've been asked whether I'd be willing to work weekends, holidays, and in the location of the companies choosing. And more than once I've had to commute multiple legs to work. Yes, it sucks.

Just wondering why all the anger towards management when I suspect you agreed to this when you were hired?

It's really not unusual in many private and public sectors to be reqired to move every few years. Possibly you all are just venting; and that's fine. But really, didn't ASA warn you of this when you were hired?

The problem I see is like mentioned above, two base closures within 2 years. Now explain to your spouse that he/she needs to find another job as well. Also, how do you think your kids are going to feel when you tell them they are moving to their 3rd school in 2 years? Packing up and selling another home is a chore in itself. What else am I missing?

 

[ASABound]

SuperCooter , which member of mgmt are you ?? B.L., C.T, ?? Some other GO Genious ??

 

[LAMESAUCE]

...when in the long run, isn't SkyWest Inc. losing money in the long run, taking qualified pilots and their planes and giving them to someone who has to train more pilots, when the displaced pilots are now sitting doing nothing (potentially)? Seems like SkyWest Inc isn't looking at the whole picture. Then again, what I've just said is way above my paygrade so....

 

[Richard Gozinya]

The next thing to come out of Queen Tutt's mouth is, " we were going to open a base at LAX, but we weren't competetive enough to beat out, well, ourselves. So we are going to take away the base we haven't given to you and give it to, uh..........! If we were just more competive in our crew rates, then we could just be competetive with, uh, ourselves! Hold on, let me get some more charts and other ********************e to show this on paper. Sorry, can't really break any of these figures down to show you, you'll just have to take our word on this one!"

Dick

 

[sweptback]

...when in the long run, isn't SkyWest Inc. losing money in the long run, taking qualified pilots and their planes and giving them to someone who has to train more pilots, when the displaced pilots are now sitting doing nothing (potentially)? Seems like SkyWest Inc isn't looking at the whole picture. Then again, what I've just said is way above my paygrade so....

But you see, in the airline industry, busting unions is more important than making money. I'm only half joking...

 

[LAMESAUCE]

i guess you could ask yourself what would jimmy hoffa do ?

 

[Crash Pad]

I looked at the displacement also... No one is being booted back to the 50.
Two thoughts
1. It will take a while for skywest to get all the pilots so it will be a slow transfer.
or
2. This is a management sham at contract time.

I know skywest is hiring 40 or so a month and ASA isn't. That is my take.

 

[John Pennekamp]

i guess you could ask yourself what would jimmy hoffa do ?

Or "What would Jimmy Buffett do"?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

.....

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Screw all that, what would Ted Nugent do?

 

[shamrock]

Screw all that, what would Ted Nugent do?

I see something along the lines of Charlie, Scott, and Bryan running from the crew lounge trailed by a hail of gunfire and flaming arrows.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Where do I sign up at? Wait a minute, follow me!

Dick

 

[US Flyer]

The next thing to come out of Queen Tutt's mouth is, " we were going to open a base at LAX, but we weren't competetive enough to beat out, well, ourselves. So we are going to take away the base we haven't given to you and give it to, uh..........! If we were just more competive in our crew rates, then we could just be competetive with, uh, ourselves! Hold on, let me get some more charts and other ********************e to show this on paper. Sorry, can't really break any of these figures down to show you, you'll just have to take our word on this one!"

Dick

VERY FUNNY (because it is TRUE!)