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ASARJMan

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Another letter from mgt under "my supervisor" on flica. Concerns closing of SLC Oct 1, and how to bid ATL slots. Scotty states 167 slots on the 700 available, and then 100 in 2007. Guess that means a reduction (?) in the 700? Anyone? Guess more 700s to SKYW boys. Enjoy them, along with the 900s.
 
Q. Are there employment opportunities at SkyWest Airlines should I
choose to resign from ASA?​
A. Skywest has advised ASA of the following: ASA Pilots will go through the
SkyWest interviewing process. If offered a position, you will be given the
next available hire date (which will become your department date of hire)
and begin training at a later date when ASA. Pay will begin at the SkyWest
pilot new hire rate of pay. No pay credit will be given for ASA years of
service. A base will not be guaranteed and you will be treated just like any
other newly hired Skywest Airlines Pilot.

In other words, "F#@! YOU GUYS!"​
 
I hear you Drunk.

As I began to read the Q&A you highlighted on Flica I actually thought there was some new info there. I mean that's a lot of words, right?

Would've been easier to simply state:

"You may apply for employment at SkyWest throught the same channels available to the public. As an ASA employee you will receive no special consideration for employment."

Same "F^ck You" message, much less reading.
 
They could have at least let them keep longevity for pass benefits and vacation. Not that it would make the offer any more attractive, but still.
 
ASARJMan said:
Another letter from mgt under "my supervisor" on flica. Concerns closing of SLC Oct 1, and how to bid ATL slots. Scotty states 167 slots on the 700 available, and then 100 in 2007. Guess that means a reduction (?) in the 700? Anyone? Guess more 700s to SKYW boys. Enjoy them, along with the 900s.

Good Job alpa you're really "showing" managment now. Hey maybe for your next trick you can help asa lose some 50 seaters too.
 
SuperKooter said:
Good Job alpa you're really "showing" managment now. Hey maybe for your next trick you can help asa lose some 50 seaters too.

Lets see. Jerry Atkin states that ASA's 700 "operating costs" are more than SKYW Airlines. He also stated that ASA's operating costs on the 50 seat are less than SKYW Airlines. So when Jerry was asked, why don't you just put the 700s at SKYW. Airlines, approx 85, and put all the 50 seats at ASA, approx 255, he had no answer. If he is all about numbers, I guess he wants it one way.

Trust, I wouldn't trust Jerry at all. Just ask the people in the ASA GO what they were told when they bought us. No pay cuts and no elimination of jobs.
What took place. Thats right. Pay cuts and several jobs eliminated.

So Super Kooter, whats your plan of action? Oh thats right, it's roll over.
 
SuperKooter said:
Good Job alpa you're really "showing" managment now. Hey maybe for your next trick you can help asa lose some 50 seaters too.

Hey Childree, maybe we'll get all the 200s 'cause we're cheaper than Skywest. What's your immature response to that mommy boy. You need some more tissues for your little crying, pity-me, spills? Or are you taking tissue boxes from catering and putting them in your little management bag when you leave Carl. Better not get caught you little whiner.
 
DrunkIrishman said:
Q. Are there employment opportunities at SkyWest Airlines should I​

choose to resign from ASA?

A. Skywest has advised ASA of the following: ASA Pilots will go through the

SkyWest interviewing process. If offered a position, you will be given the
next available hire date (which will become your department date of hire)
and begin training at a later date when ASA. Pay will begin at the SkyWest
pilot new hire rate of pay. No pay credit will be given for ASA years of
service. A base will not be guaranteed and you will be treated just like any
other newly hired Skywest Airlines Pilot.​

In other words, "F#@! YOU GUYS!"​

No need to bail out of any regional job for another regional job unless it is Horizon. Jerry's Kids will not be spared the whipsaw rod. Maybe they should just sing Red Rover, Red Rover send 100 more pissed of pilots right over.
 
Bizjet said:
No need to bail out of any regional job for another regional job unless it is Horizon. Jerry's Kids will not be spared the whipsaw rod. Maybe they should just sing Red Rover, Red Rover send 100 more pissed of pilots right over.

Bizjet, nobody will be spared the whipsaw rod. Some of us will just have to pay 1.95% for the privledge of being whipsawed. ALPA is doing nothing to stop the whipsaw. ALPA has failed.
 
On a totally unrelated subject, how often are elections held for MEC/LEC officers?

Are they only held when a position becomes vacant or is there a time limit on how long one can represent (or fail to represent) the members before they must be re-elected?
 
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shamrock said:
On a totally unrelated subject, how often are elections held for MEC/LEC officers?

Are they only held when a position becomes vacant or is there a time limit on how long one can represent (or fail to represent) the members before they must be re-elected?

Totally unrelated subject, of course. ;)

LEC elections are held every 3 years. However, you can always get the recall process started if you want to get a certain moron out of there earlier.
 
PCL_128 said:
Totally unrelated subject, of course. ;)

LEC elections are held every 3 years. However, you can always get the recall process started if you want to get a certain moron out of there earlier.

I'm workin' on it.............
 
arthompson said:
PCL is that directed at any certain moron we know or just in general?

It's directed right at Joe Merchant. Joe holds the same office in Council 112 that I do in Council 128. He hasn't exactly been carrying out his responsibilities as directed by the Constitution and By-Laws.
 
PCL_128 said:
It's directed right at Joe Merchant. Joe holds the same office in Council 112 that I do in Council 128. He hasn't exactly been carrying out his responsibilities as directed by the Constitution and By-Laws.

I personally could care less whether JB is recalled. That's what he wants though. He wants to be like those over in the middle east, a martyr. Maybe he thinks he'll have all those virgins if he's recalled! Kidding JB, just kidding.

Hoser
 
Ok, back on point. If I'm reading that memo correctly, all of us out here on the 700 (except captains) would have to stay on the 700 in ATL because option 2 & 3 aren't available since there will be 700 slots in ATL for us. Reading the contract though, it seems that they can only hold you there for 120 days. Otherwise, why the need to change your standing bid? Some one with more insight on this please explain it.

Thanks.
 
grasstrip, are you like me and want to go from the 700 to the 200? Gee, I'm taking the paycut voluntarily! Anyway, I was wondering the same, since the 70's are leaving, I want to get off now, and not be on reserve again after 4 years at the company.
 
non an option. Your choice to go to SLC, and now you suffer the consequences of having to fly the supercool crj-700 until life is miserable and they finally get to your number for displacement when skywest gets that airplane. Then you will again be displaced, this time into the crj-200 where you can finally be having a schedule but no sooner than next year somtime. Enjoy!
 
:(Report...you don't have to be a dck to the guy for just asking a simple question. Calm Down!
 
It has a lot less to do with the 700 than it does being based where I live. (And lived for three years before ASA ever came to SLC or me to ASA.) Like wise, I will hold a better line on the 200 out of ATL than the 700. I really don't care what I fly (although voluntarily taking the paycut does suck) but quality of life carries more weight.

Again, anyone with some light to shed on this, please do so.
 
Grassstrippilot said:
It has a lot less to do with the 700 than it does being based where I live. (And lived for three years before ASA ever came to SLC or me to ASA.) Like wise, I will hold a better line on the 200 out of ATL than the 700. I really don't care what I fly (although voluntarily taking the paycut does suck) but quality of life carries more weight.

Again, anyone with some light to shed on this, please do so.


The 120 day provision allows the company to place you temporarily where they need you without regard to your permanent award.

As far a s being displaced, you will displace to your current seat and a/c type in ATL regardless of what your bid pref sheet says. This is because the company is creating enough postions to accomadate all SLC pilots on the 70 in ATL.

If you have any questions PM me.
 

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