Skywest Upgrade Time

[lemtjones]

Anyone from Skywest that can confirm 4 mo. upgrade in the Brasilia? I've heard you need 2500tt and 1000 of 121-2 person crew.
Also, what is the junior base and how long on reserve?

Thanks

 

[bender]

8 months, yes, FAT on the BRO, and who knows?

 

[NoBathroom]

The most recent awards went to guys from the March class. One to SLC and one to SFO.

 

[Gutenberg]

I sent in an app on the 17th, how long should I expect to wait for a call? I had someone walk it in, if that helps.

 

[NoBathroom]

Have you filled out the app at skywest.com? That usually helps. The last one I sent in it took about a week or so. I sent it directly to the interview team in SLC, so make sure they took that route.

 

[Socalplt]

Reserve as an FO, maybe only a month or so. Take the first available upgrade, it could be years as a Captain. Fortunately, for those that are junior, PBS makes lineholders out of many that typically would have been on reserve under the old system.

2500 tt and 1000 multi turbine crew is correct, however the crew time doesn't have to be 121 if I remember correctly. 135 or military should be OK unless things have changed.

 

[skipro101]

What about the RJ, what are upgrade times on that?

 

[rickair7777]

What about the RJ, what are upgrade times on that?

About two years. It is supposed to come down a bit in the near future.

 

[skipro101]

Thanks for the quick reply....


I have 1800TT, 700 Multi Tubine PIC (singe pilot, pt 91).

Anyone know if I can possibly go RJ?

 

[rickair7777]

Thanks for the quick reply....


I have 1800TT, 700 Multi Tubine PIC (singe pilot, pt 91).

Anyone know if I can possibly go RJ?

You have a good chance for RJ with the turbine time, tell them that's what you want.

 

[n25na]

what is prompting all the hiring at skywest? a buddy there is transitioning to the rj and has 70 guys in his class. he was told they were running classes that size every 3 weeks through june. that is insane.....

 

[learthirty5]

I think they held off hiring until they found out what Delta was going to do. I believe they made do with what they had until they could see what was going on with them (Delta). Now they are hiring for whatever expansion they have, plus being somewhat short staffed already. My opinion.

 

[NWaviator]

They cancelled interviews for the first 2 weeks at least in Novemeber. They said it might even be until the end of the month. I had a interview this coming up week and they called on thursday to tell me the bad news about putting off the interviewing. Does anyone know why? My best guess is that are so backed up on sim and IOE that they need a little bit of time. They are still doing the open group interviews. Does anyone know if nov 27 bro class is full?

 

[rickair7777]

My best guess is that are so backed up on sim and IOE that they need a little bit of time. They are still doing the open group interviews. Does anyone know if nov 27 bro class is full?

Based on the fact that I know people personally who have been waiting 3 weeks (and still counting) for IOE, that sounds like the case.

 

[~~~^~~~]

what is prompting all the hiring at skywest?

You are on this board and you don't know? Here, let me spell is out for you.

When SkyWest originally wanted ASA, all their President wanted was they SLC CRJ700 operation. Delta's cash position got so bad that American Express tried to cancel their credit card processing agreement. SkyWest was interested in all of ASA if they could get the ATL gates. Delta agreed and SkyWest got what it wanted (the SLC operation and the ATL gates) and what it did not want (the 200 operation in ATL).

SkyWest aquired ASA when it had 18 firm orders and multiple options that looked like at least 25 airplanes. There were also 11 to 13 CRJ700's in SLC being flown by ASA.

SkyWest management came to ASA pilots and basically told their pilots that many would need to take a 25% pay cut and others a 50% pay cut, or all of the 70 seat (and 90 seat airplane orders) would be transferred to SkyWest. Jerry Atkin, President of SkyWest told me he wanted $70,000 in pay cuts from our instructors, each!

ASA's pilots had heard these threats before. Delta had told ASA pilots similar things during Comair's negotiations. The ASA pilots stood tough.

However, Jerry Atkin was not kidding. Not one bit. The firm orders and the airplanes being operated by ASA are being transferred to SkyWest at the rate of 2 per month. ASA is down bidding and even with 60 to 70 ASA pilots quitting every month, ASA is still displacing Captains to First Officers.

It is a tragedy for ASA pilots, a windfall for SkyWest pilots.

As far as upgrade times, just do the math. SkyWest has 2,500 pilots. That means there are at least 1,200 Captains ahead of you. At 5.5 Captains per aircraft, SkyWest would need around 219 more aircraft for you to hold the upgrade. That is more than ASA's entire fleet and all 50 Delta RFP jets, if SkyWest gets that bid.

Who knows how things will shake out. ASA pilots may get weary of their battle to improve this profession and accept status quo, which would stop the flow of ASA's aircraft and perhaps reverse the trend. Delta may get tired ot CRJ200's and the E120's might go away.

SkyWest is a good airline, but it is getting big enough that the numbers indicate a new hire could have to wait a while before upgrading.

 

[n25na]

that explains it..thanks

 

[amcnd]

You are on this board and you don't know? Here, let me spell is out for you.

As far as upgrade times, just do the math. SkyWest has 2,500 pilots. That means there are at least 1,200 Captains ahead of you. At 5.5 Captains per aircraft, SkyWest would need around 219 more aircraft for you to hold the upgrade. That is more than ASA's entire fleet and all 50 Delta RFP jets, if SkyWest gets that bid.



SkyWest is a good airline, but it is getting big enough that the numbers indicate a new hire could have to wait a while before upgrading.

You forgot to factor in the 20-30 CA leaving a month!! Lowest CA is around 1550. We have 2550 Pilots Thats 1000 pilots between you and Captain. At 40 CA uprades every 3 weeks right now!! (lets just say 30 upgrades every 3 weeks..) you do the math that brings it to a 2 year upgrade! ... What it is right now.. And should stay that way for a while.

 

[minnereg]

Based on the fact that I know people personally who have been waiting 3 weeks (and still counting) for IOE, that sounds like the case.

I did the aircraft checkout in PSP two weeks ago today, and I'm still waiting on IOE to begin. Backed up? Yeah, I'd say so. Should I expect another week? Two weeks? I suppose paid vacation (even at training wages) is nothing to complain about....just curious.

 

[sstearns2]

We just got another 8 Brasila check airman qualified is week, so IOE should start moving again.

Scott

 

[sstearns2]

They cancelled interviews for the first 2 weeks at least in Novemeber. They said it might even be until the end of the month. I had a interview this coming up week and they called on thursday to tell me the bad news about putting off the interviewing. Does anyone know why? My best guess is that are so backed up on sim and IOE that they need a little bit of time. They are still doing the open group interviews. Does anyone know if nov 27 bro class is full?

It's probably being maxed out in the sim and IOE, also they may not want to run a class through the holidays.

Scott

 

[NWaviator]

Well, I hope they have at least one or two more classes before the holidays. But I can wait.

 

[AirSeattle]

If your interview was cancelled/rescheduled, it was because Camielle's group was/is out doing job fairs and the staffing levels don't permit her to do both on the same day.