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Skywest to Maybe Add Q400s As Air Whisky 146 Replacement?

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Looks like Skywest might be looking to add Q400s for service into Aspen for UAL and other resort areas. It's all speculation at this point...The article below mentions the EM2 phase-out in 2008 as a time frame but Air Whisky is dropping the 146 service to Aspen soon - you'd think the Q400 would be under stronger consideration now as a result...

SkyWest lobbies for closer airport site
Subsidy for direct flights no panacea

By PAT MURPHY
Express Staff Writer


SkyWest Airlines has jumped into the fray over the search for a new airport site to replace the aging Hailey facility, arguing that passenger loads and frequency of flights to the Wood River Valley could be adversely affected by an airport more than an hour's drive time from the Sun Valley resort area.

In a March 28 letter to Friedman Memorial Airport Authority chair Martha Burke, SkyWest's vice president for market development, Steve Hart, also appealed for the site selection committee to look again at closer sites as well as consider upgrading the current airport to new standards imposed by the Federal Aviation Administration.

Burke was attending an FAA regional conference in Denver and could not be reached. Friedman manager Rick Baird, also at the same conference, declined to comment on the letter, saying it would be discussed Tuesday, April 12, at the authority's regular monthly meeting, scheduled for 5:30 p.m. in the Old Blaine County Courthouse.

The views of SkyWest and Horizon Air have become increasingly important arguing points in the contentious search for an airport site. Business and resort interests of the Ketchum-Sun Valley area have insisted that sites now being considered are so distant that travelers accustomed to the Hailey airport will be discouraged.

At the other end of the confrontation are the City of Hailey and Blaine County that have resolved not to expand Friedman to meet FAA standards required by larger, faster airline aircraft.

Hart's letter, a copy of which was provided the Mountain Express by Maurice Charlat, a member of the site selection committee, contends that "if the preferred site selected (for a new airport) is approximately 1 hour or possibly an hour and 10 or 15 minutes from Ketchum, SkyWest believes there is high probability that such a location. . .would adversely affect passenger loads and ticket revenues and consequently the service frequency of our existing connecting service from Salt Lake City."

Hart calculated drive time from the Ketchum area to three sites under consideration as 55 minutes to No. 10 and 61 minutes to No. 9, both in the area of the Blaine-Lincoln counties line east of state Highway 75, and 67 minutes to No. 13 on U.S. east of Fairfield.

"SkyWest strongly urges that sites (north of Timmerman Hill) be reconsidered," Hart wrote, adding that "40 minutes is a reasonable distance from airport to resort."

North of Timmerman would mean the so-called Bellevue Triangle area, which was ruled out several months ago because of its proximity to Bellevue and strong protests from Triangle residents. Environmental concerns in the area also were cited.

However, if a larger airport becomes an incentive for air service to more major U.S. markets, "we believe the 1 hour or 1 hour plus drive is not ideal but may be acceptable to the traveling public."

He also wrote that the subsidy for present service "is probably not in the long range best interest of the community or SkyWest because there is little likelihood of growing the market sufficiently to reduce or eliminate the subsidy."

Instead, he wrote, "subsidy for non-stop serviced to major markets that offer reasonable prospects for growing out of the subsidy" is a better approach.

SkyWest, he wrote, plans to phase out its turboprop Brasilia aircraft beginning in 2008. It will be replaced with such airliners as the 78-passenger Bombardier Q400, now used by Horizon for service to Friedman, and whose sizes and approach speed triggered FAA concerns about Friedman's safety.

Hart believes, he wrote, that the replacement aircraft "will be able to service Sun Valley in compliance with the FAA's Flight Standards."

Charlat, who has insisted that the airline point of view is receiving insufficient concern, said that "if you disturb core service and move (the airport) elsewhere, and it's not sufficient to produce revenues for the airlines, we've got to do something."

He added, "We have not looked at anything north of Timmerman seriously except at the site near Fairfield.

Charlat mentioned a possible site in the Diamond Dragon area west of Highway 75 and north of the Timmerman Junction with U.S. 20.


 
not gonna happen. This airplane has been beaten to death at SKYW, and its been repeated many times that mgmt does not want a 3rd type in the fleet.However there was word that it will be the replacement for the brasilia in about 5 to 8 years.
 
RoyalAviation2 said:
not gonna happen. This airplane has been beaten to death at SKYW, and its been repeated many times that mgmt does not want a 3rd type in the fleet.However there was word that it will be the replacement for the brasilia in about 5 to 8 years.

True, but the departure of the 146 might expedite consideration of the Q400.... You never know.
 
SKW has no problem flying them right now, but someone else will have to buy them and SKW would lease. The same goes for CRJ50 unless they can get them dirt cheap (Indy Air). The mgmt. team won't spend on something they cannot use elsewhere if under a short term contract. Based on the current US market, they really don't see the need to buy Q400's at this time.

I believe the CAL deal brought this to light. They didn't want to buy 10-12 large T/props and then have the contract pulled and be stuck with the new planes.
 
You would think Skywest could get a good deal with Bombardier for the Q400, since they bought 150 or so RJs from them.....

Bye Bye---General Lee
 
I don't think SkyWest wants to operate a third fleet for another turboprop...Mesa could add the Q400 easier then SkyWest could.


Mesa Air to Operate 30 More Jets for UAL
Friday May 13, 2:09 pm ET
Mesa Air Group Agrees to Operate 30 More Regional Jets for United Airlines

PHOENIX (AP) -- Mesa Air Group Inc., a regional airline used by major carriers for small-town stops, on Friday said it agreed to operate 30 additional jets for UAL Corp.

Including the modified contract for the 50-seat regional jets, Mesa will operate 70 aircraft for United Airlines, including 45 CRJ-200s, 15 CRJ-700s and 10 Dash 8s. Mesa said it expects to have the 30 regional jets operating within one year.

Financial terms were not disclosed.

Mesa operates 180 aircraft with more than 1,100 daily departures to 168 cities in 44 states, Canada and Mexico. The company -- whose operations on behalf of other carriers account for nearly all of its sales -- also has contracts with America West and US Airways.

Nasdaq-listed shares of Mesa Air climbed 22 cents, or 3.75 percent, to $6.09 during afternoon trading. Shares of UAL Corp. fell 2 cents to 97 cents during afternoon trading on the over-the-counter exchange.
 
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