SkyWest Pilots It's Not Too Late!

[BigHangar]

You still have time to vote. Get yourself a contract just like all of your executives have. Everyone of them has negotiated and is protected by their own contracts. Don't you think you deserve the same?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I caught a snipet of Defense Sec Gates commencement speech in USAToday. So I sourced the entire speech.

As workers Corp America is a totalitarian regime. There is only one choice. Work or quit. There is no due process, no say. Has your company ever asked for and seriously considered your imput on policy that significantly effected you? Maybe, but that is few are far between. Unions, in this country, however, are democracies. They are self government.

Currently, union democracy particaption rates are in line with American culture. About 30% of Americans and union members bother to participate in the lection of thier representatives.

Is democracy in union activities un-American? As Americans do we not have duty to embrace and sustain democracy regardless of the organization that uses democracy?

Here is the link for the full speech. I've cut and paste a portion. The first paragraph below applies to the future of the Air Line Pilot profession via union democracy.

Plato: One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=1152

While volunteering for a good cause is important, it is not enough. This country will only survive and progress as a democracy if its citizens—young and old alike—take an active role in its political life as well.


Sad to say, that precious franchise, purchased and preserved by the blood of hundreds of thousands of Americans your age and younger from 1776 to today, has not been adequately appreciated or exercised by your generation.


In 2004, with our nation embroiled in two difficult and controversial wars, the voting percentage was only 42 percent for those aged 18 to 24.
Ed Muskie, former senator and Secretary of State, once said that “you have the God given right to kick the government around.” And it starts with voting, and becoming involved in campaigns. If you think that too many politicians are feckless and corrupt, then go out and help elect different ones. Or go out and run yourself. But you must participate, or else the decisions that affect your life and the future of our country will be made for you—and without you.


So vote. And volunteer. But also consider doing something else: dedicating at least part of your life in service to our country.
I entered public life more than 40 years ago, and no one is more familiar with the hassles, frustrations and sacrifices of public service than I am. Government is, by design of the Founding Fathers, slow, unwieldy and almost comically inefficient. Will Rogers used to say: “I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.”


These frustrations are inherent in a system of checks and balances, of divisions and limitations of power. Our Founding Fathers did not have efficiency as their primary goal. They designed a system intended to sustain and protect liberty for the ages. Getting things done in government is not easy, but it’s not supposed to be.



I will close with a quote from a letter John Adams sent to one of their other sons, Thomas Boylston Adams. And he wrote:“Public business, my son, must always be done by somebody. It will be done by somebody or another. If wise men decline it, others will not; if honest men refuse it, others will not.”



Will the wise and the honest among you come help us serve the American people?

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[McNugent]

When do the polls close for you guys, and when will the results be released?

 

[txpilot1974]

Polls close at 2 PM Eastern. I have no clue when the results may be announced.

 

[joe_pilot]

When do the polls close for you guys, and when will the results be released?

Polls close at 1400 EST. From what I understand, the count happens pretty much immediately after the voting ends-it's all electronic. Don't known exactly when the reults will be released. I'm sure it will be rather quickly.

 

[Vegaspilot99]

Does one have to be done with IOE to vote??

 

[txpilot1974]

Does one have to be done with IOE to vote??

I would imagine if you received voting instructions in the mail from the NMB you can vote.

 

[Vegaspilot99]

No instructions...just was hoping I could vote. Oh well, hope it passes.

 

[PCL_128]

Polls close at 1400 EST. From what I understand, the count happens pretty much immediately after the voting ends-it's all electronic. Don't known exactly when the reults will be released. I'm sure it will be rather quickly.

The official vote tally is certified at NMB HQ in Washington, DC immediately at 2pm. It's all electronic, so the results flash up on the screen as soon as the NMB staffer opens the results. I would imagine that members of the OC will send text messages as soon as they see the results, so the flightinfo world will probably know within minutes.

 

[WWEfan]

SKYW pilots may ask, "Why do I need ALPA? Our contract is just as good as ASA's." While this may be true I think it is important to note SKYW's "policy manual" is on the decline and there is nothing they can do about it without representation. On the other hand ASA's contracts continue to raise the bar.

 

[Long Time Gone]

So what's the tally? It's 2:12pm and still no answer.

 

[auspac]

It closed at 12.p.m. mountain time. It's now officially too late.

 

[pipers]

yeah, its 12;16. Now its too late skywest pilots. hope we made the right choice.....

 

[nethan]

A little bird told me only 35% yes. Not an official little bird though.

If it's true though... That's pathetic.

 

[Vegaspilot99]

A little bird told me only 35% yes. Not an official little bird though.

If it's true though... That's pathetic.

Yup...VERY disappointing to say the least.

 

[Tarzan]

Now, I can pass this on so I didn't seem like I was threatening. But.... There are mainline guys that that don't care for what the SKW pilot has done in regards to union. Sorta like how Delta doesn't hire Comair pilots. Same thing may be coming down the pike for SKW pilots. Hasn't happened yet but.....

 

[SiouxHockeyFan]

A little bird told me only 35% yes. Not an official little bird though.

If it's true though... That's pathetic.

A real shame! No ALPA at Skywest, but they all want to go work for Delta, Continental, Northwest, United, or some other ALPA carrier. Oh the Irony!

 

[jea]

SKYW pilots may ask, "Why do I need ALPA? Our contract is just as good as ASA's." While this may be true I think it is important to note SKYW's "policy manual" is on the decline and there is nothing they can do about it without representation. On the other hand ASA's contracts continue to raise the bar.

youre an idiot! ASA was brought up to almost what we have GO alpa!!!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

youre an idiot! ASA was brought up to almost what we have GO alpa!!!

Maybe you should deal with the facts, and not lies...At my seniority the ASA TA pays them almost $6 an hour more on the CRJ200 and they pay about $15 an hour more on the 700!


Idiot!

 

[jea]

Maybe you should deal with the facts, and not lies...At my seniority the ASA TA pays them almost $6 an hour more on the CRJ200 and they pay about $15 an hour more on the 700!


Idiot!

ohhh thats right... hourly is all that matters to everyone.... see ya on the beach if you get any time!!!