SkyWest Non-reving

[Spooky 1]

Anybody here that can answer this question? I was looking at a couple of SkyWest flight between SLC and RNO. Using the VRU to check loads and noticed a couple of flights that were overbooked by as many as 49 pax. Considering that the RJ only hold about 50 this is an amazing number of overbookings. Does Delta step up with a B737 when things get this out of proportion or does SkyWest just figure that there will be an abundence of no-shows for certain flights and thing will work them selves out by the end of the day? Just curious.

Thanks in advance,

 

[smellthejeta]

Anybody here that can answer this question? I was looking at a couple of SkyWest flight between SLC and RNO. Using the VRU to check loads and noticed a couple of flights that were overbooked by as many as 49 pax. Considering that the RJ only hold about 50 this is an amazing number of overbookings. Does Delta step up with a B737 when things get this out of proportion or does SkyWest just figure that there will be an abundence of no-shows for certain flights and thing will work them selves out by the end of the day? Just curious.

Thanks in advance,

Spooky,

The answer may be none of the above, and I'm almost certain that SkyWest does not do their own inventory management. When I worked for a UAX carrier, there were certain times that United's yield management system was out of wack. We were selling 40+ seats on a J41 (29 seats) between IAD and JFK. That was an operational nightmare for a couple of reasons. There were some internal reasons for that, like CSR's creating "ghost" reservations day of departure to block flights out. Problem was, when they wouldn't delete them before doing their TLR's (or some other paperwork) that it would go back to United as a no-show, making the oversales even worse the next time around. Another was that that aircraft could not handle 29 pax AND the average JFK pax's load of bags even WITHOUT a performance limits cutting even further into the usable weight. I also remember a couple of years ago when United was selling their Asian destinations to over 600 pax on a 744. That same summer, their flights to Europe out of IAD were running 24 hours late (it's odd to hear annoucnements for "Yesterday's delayed flight 918 to LHR" during the afternoon on the next day) because the flights were so full that it would be WEEKS before they could get pax out on any carrier if the flights cancelled. I did hear stories of nonrevs being stuck in Europe for over a week.

FWIW, at the time, selling any CRJ (50 seats) to over 60 seats (10 seats over) was almost certainly going to result in a bump.

 

[propsarebest]

HONESTLY, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO RNO FROM SLC ON US. THE FLIGHTS ARE ALWAYS WEIGHT RESTRICTED, AND IF RNO NEEDS AN ALTERNATE, YOURE PRETTY MUCH HOSED. I WOULD SAY WAIT FOR THE BIG D JET OR SOUTHWEST

 

[labbats]

I'm sorry, I can only comprehend INSANELY LARGE FONTS.

 

[Spooky 1]

Thanks for the info. I think I get the BIG PICTURE now.

 

[AbOvo]

The other problem is ASA just started doing some of the flights from SLC to RNO (3 a day if I'm not mistaken). While the extra capacity of their airplanes is appreciated the fact that they need 4SM of visibility to land is not. If the weather is down in RNO (which it is much of the time) then you're screwed.

 

[trip]

The flights were booked for ASA's 70 seat A/C, after 2-3 weeks of canx flights (ASA not authorized yet for RNO) ASA and SKYW swapped PHX for RNO now RNO has 50 seat jets flying 70 loads! Confused yet, dont worry the loads are allways over sold anyways-use WN.