Skywest new pay proposal! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[WalterSobchak]

Yeah, irregardless still isn't a word and you're still an idiot. The word is "regardless."

In all reality, you're both right.

It is considered "non-standard" and there is debate as to whether the use of the word is "wrong". It is a technically word...but its use is considered improper...kinda like the contraction "ain't"

I'm not ragging on either one of you. It is used in daily speech...it's technically a word...just improper English. And thanks for the defense back there, PCL. Much appreciated.

ir·re·gard·less
[Origin: 1910–15; ir-2 (prob. after irrespective) + regardless

]

—Usage note Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.


Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Hey Charles, it's your cousin. Your cousin, Marvin. You know that new sound you've been looking for? Well listen to this...

Hey, look, we don't want to mess with a bunch of reefer addicts.

 

[XPOO]

Irregardless - Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing.

But then, why should anyone look up any facts to support their claims, lamesauce? It's a good thing this isn't the New Yorker. We'd all be boned for our messed up usage of the English language mayhaps.

 

[XPOO]

Hey, look, we don't want to mess with a bunch of reefer addicts.

I am Darth Vader....from the planet Vulcan.

 

[PCL_128]

Irregardless - Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing.


But then, why should anyone look up any facts to support their claims, lamesauce? It's a good thing this isn't the New Yorker. We'd all be boned for our messed up usage of the English language mayhaps.

If you want to sound like a moron, then continue to use the word. Those of us with more than a dozen brain cells will enjoy laughing at you.

 

[homerjdispatch]

"He's a very strange young man."

"He's an idiot. Comes from upbringing. His parents are probably idiots too. Lorraine, if you ever have a kid that acts that way I'll disown you."

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Once again, I'm waiting for you to use that superior attention to detail you claim to have and show where I have, with any amount of seriousness, "claimed to profess what is best" for the SKW pilot group. I haven't. I don't claim to know. So, constantly bringing me into that argument is not a real shining example of your grand superior intellect.


Yes, it was legal. If we didn't launch on the type of forecast LIT was calling for at that time, an airline would cancel 60% of our daily flights.

There were failures on both ends. The dispatcher did make the unfortunate and now-famous "expedite the approach" and "it looks like a bowling alley approach" comment, but no one forced that captain to decide to make the approach into LIT (with the spoilers not armed, no less) when he had two solid alternates in BNA and DFW and holding fuel on board.

I don't see how this is relevant to your argument. You're reaching really far on this one PBR...try again.

Trying to use AAL1420 to make your point isn't a good idea. The majority of dispatchers know AAL1420 like the back of our hand (and most of us have a copy of the NTSB report and CVR transcript) because we never want to have to be in the position that AA dispatcher was in.

Where or not, whatever, you win you are now a full blooded ALPA supporter, and I recognize that now, happy.

Again my point is made, the AA flight was legal, sure, the dispatchers statement will live in infamy, he had the opportunity to help a Captain who was fatigued and stressed with the possibility of terminating a pilot(the one he was flying with). You are absolutely right, it was legal, and guess what the pilot and a whole bunch of folks are dead, bet the dispatcher feels horrible, wouldn't want to be him. He will have the rest of his life to feel horrible, the Captains horrible feelings ended with his life. legal may not always be safe and safe may not always be legal. Pilot pushing is a long and management honored tradition in the FLYING industry, you can be either part of the solution or the problem. AAL1420 is the essence of this debate, the dispatcher was part of the problem, he enabled the pilot to make a horrible decision that cost him his life.
PBR
Sorry for smearing you with the xpoop stigma.
BTW, what is the OPS spec that allows SKYW to operate FAR Part 91?

 

[John Pennekamp]

"He's a very strange young man."

"He's an idiot. Comes from upbringing. His parents are probably idiots too. Lorraine, if you ever have a kid that acts that way I'll disown you."

So you're my uncle Joey. Better get used to these bars, kid.

 

[XPOO]

Alright, Old School. If all FlightInfo.com Members adhered to using the precise English vernacular required in order to ascertain the quality of conversation you are accustomed to having then no one would able to communicate with you.

 

[homerjdispatch]

I'm sure in 1985 plutonium is available at every corner drugstore, but in 1955 it's a little hard to come by.

 

[XPOO]

I hate manure

 

[homerjdispatch]

"What are you looking at butthead?"

"Hey Biff, get a load of this guy's life preserver. Dork thinks he's gonna drown."

 

[XPOO]

The shark still looks fake.

Man, I sure wish I could go back in time and put some money on the Cubbies.

 

[waveflyer]

well- it does seem skywest dispatch's professionalism is on display here. You're working 43 flights and it's so difficult that you have time to log on to FI.com?

It is a stupid pissing contest. You're important to the airline. No doubt- it would be so inefficient w/o you coordinating everything. But you're not a pilot. You're not on the same professional level in any way shape or form. You ARE professionals. Professional support staff in the same way that nurses are professionals. (my girlfriend is a nurse- that is not a dig on you in any way.) I can have a nice rapport with you= but do not use that inch to take a mile. I'll say it again- I've seen your operation- and b/c of my education and training that i worked my tail off in- i can do your job w/ a week's training. You can't do mine. I'm sorry you don't like that. I'm sure there are idiot pilots out there- just like my girlfriend works with doctors that have less than common sense. But that doesn't mean she's the boss in the operating room- and though she can be a VITAL backup and support-= i can't imagine her thinking that she is on equal playing field w/ the doctor.
I've already had one dispatcher on this forum pm me to tell me how he was an ATP- what i wrote back was that i thought that was FANTASTIC- (i really do respect that!) but i had that same qualification plus 2 college degrees by the time i was 25. And it wasn't fair weather optional flying. I've been making my living flying airplanes EVERY day regardless of weather since I was 20 years old. We all have our roles- (i have my bosses- but when it comes to my individual flight- i am the sole decision maker- you, atc, and cs help me make my decisions. period.)
If you want the authority of a pilot. Go to flight school. Until then- you chose to be a dispatcher... be happy with that- i imagine doing your job well leads to quite a bit of satisfaction. But i won't have you disrespecting the VERY LONG AND HARD road that i took to become a pilot. The work that i did is not on par with the work you did to get where you are. It's not close.

This thread no matter how much you HIJACK it IS important. The skywest pilots deserve to be recognized financially for their significant role in making skywest so profitable. You've earned a raise and it's sad to see management that you have always trusted not follow through on promises made. GET BACK ON TOPIC.

 

[LogbookSlave]

"They're like cockroaches . . . ya have to kill them all, otherwise what's the point."

- Charles Bronson