Skywest FA makes Guy Pi$$ his Pants

[John Pennekamp]

If the gate agents kept the drunks off the planes, we wouldn't have people pissing in airsickness bags in the first place!

 

[JimNtexas]

As a person with a short range bladder my sympathies are entirely with the passenger.

I'm not going to rupture my bladder just to show my respect for your authority.

If you won't let me in the lav, then something on your airplane is going to absorb my urine.

 

[John Pennekamp]

As a person with a short range bladder my sympathies are entirely with the passenger.

I'm not going to rupture my bladder just to show my respect for your authority.

If you won't let me in the lav, then something on your airplane is going to absorb my urine.

Oooo you really told us. I've heard the F111 has a large and luxurious lav. Dork.

 

[jws717]

Why get the guy arrested? People pee and take dumps on the Beech and Metro liners all the time, those bags get used alot.

 

[Crossky]

Who wrote it up at an outstation with no MX? It still takes some one with authority to release it for service after you reset the breaker to clear the MEL. If you cannot MEL it, then the aircraft is unairworthy until it is repaired. That is in the FAR'S, and the CA has no authority to over ride this. Read block 13 on the airworthiness certificate. It is only valid if the aircraft is maintained in accordance with the FAR's, and thats where the MEL comes into play.

Any CA who blately disregards a MEL is totally unprofessional and deserves to be disqualified as a CA. It doesn't matter what that MEL is. Somebody with a higher paygrade and responsibility came up with this system, the CA's boss bought off on it, and it is policy. If you don't agree with the system, you are officially a "Cowboy", and should seriously consider another line of employment.

I wanted to respond seriously to you but I thought ridicule would work better . . .

Adapted from Jon BonJovi's 80's pop-metal MTV classic:

"Yea, I'm a COWBOY
On an aluminum horse I ride
wanted (wanted) broken stuff to write

Yea the schedule is tight
25 minute turns
no time for lunch
on both ends the candle burns

We got broken knobs and sticky trims
loose yoke clips and bad overhead bins
We'd write it up but we just don't have time
and at the hub, the swapping crew would whine

Pros find a way
to try to please everyone
if we wrote everything up right now
the airline wouldn't run

Yea, I'm a COWBOY
I don't see in black and white
don't call me dangerous
for yellow and red messages we'll fight"

 

[flyingfool]

Who wrote it up at an outstation with no MX? It still takes some one with authority to release it for service after you reset the breaker to clear the MEL. If you cannot MEL it, then the aircraft is unairworthy until it is repaired. That is in the FAR'S, and the CA has no authority to over ride this. Read block 13 on the airworthiness certificate. It is only valid if the aircraft is maintained in accordance with the FAR's, and thats where the MEL comes into play.

Any CA who blately disregards a MEL is totally unprofessional and deserves to be disqualified as a CA. It doesn't matter what that MEL is. Somebody with a higher paygrade and responsibility came up with this system, the CA's boss bought off on it, and it is policy. If you don't agree with the system, you are officially a "Cowboy", and should seriously consider another line of employment.

SHUTUP! DORK!!!!!!!!!! Did you get kicked around at school a lot when you were younger?

 

[405]

If the gate agents kept the drunks off the planes, we wouldn't have people pissing in airsickness bags in the first place!

Agents want all those people at the gate away from them so do you think they care how impaired one passenger is before he/she gets on your little plane? Nope.

If the airports didn't have bars people wouldn't be getting drunk! What do you do now? Make all passengers blow in a breathalyzer before getting on a plane? Ban bars! Ban restaurants too. Sodas and water make people pee too.

I wish we'd just go back to trains. Everyone seems so goddamed miserable now with air travel. Pilots are pissed, passengers are pissed and employees are pissed. I'm pissed as a dispatcher having to dispatch airplanes that are MEL'd to death because my cheap ass airline won't fix the plane until they absolutely have to fix it.

Traveling by air is miserable. All it is now is herd on, herd off. Customer service is a dead art.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

If the gate agents kept the drunks off the planes, we wouldn't have people pissing in airsickness bags in the first place!

STFU Peniskramp. What? Should the gate agents not allow kids that can't hold it either? Yes that drunk shouldn't have been on the flight, but what if a kid that can't hold it is on your plane. Your gonna let him piss all over the seat?

Reading your post leaves no doubt that you are a pussie. Why would you get canned for letting a guy not use the pisser? You sound like one of those pussies that feel that are walking on egg shells.

 

[trachyte11]

If you let them up to use a deffered lav, and a fed wrote you up for this, they deserve to be shot. Or at least physically hurt. Turn the damn seatbelt sign off next time.

 

[crashpad]

If the gate agents kept the drunks off the planes, we wouldn't have people pissing in airsickness bags in the first place!

I don't drink and used to pee in the sick sacks all the time. You want to know more....ok, then I'd dump them on the ramp in protest of flying planes without lavs. Fond memories indeed. I'm with JimNtexas. Oh, and show some respect for the military, melonhead!

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Customer service is a dead art.

I'd like to nominate this sentence for "truest words ever spoken on flightinfo.com". Anyone?

 

[crashpad]

I Am Customer Service! And So Are You.

 

[skiandsurf]

Years ago at UEX, we had a bumpy flight. The seatbelt sign was "on". This old guy tried to go to the LAV, the FA demanded he remain seated. He pissed his pants, and sued UAL. If you ever try to get up on a United flight with the sign on, they will now tell you the "seatbelt sign is on," and let you know you are up "at your own risk".

 

[list2002]

Since when did passengers adhere to the fasten seatbelt sign?

 

[erj-145mech]

SHUTUP! DORK!!!!!!!!!! Did you get kicked around at school a lot when you were younger?

Hey sh!t for brains, so how often do you intentionally violate the FAR's? How often do you operate an unairworthy aircraft? When you get a real job in professional aviation, you'll understand. Now go back to airliners,net and spout the words of wisdom to the rest of the 14 year olds, and make airplane sounds when you have flight simulator booted up.

Your handle says it all, but you misspelled tool.

 

[lionflyer]

Hey sh!t for brains, so how often do you intentionally violate the FAR's? How often do you operate an unairworthy aircraft? When you get a real job in professional aviation, you'll understand. Now go back to airliners,net and spout the words of wisdom to the rest of the 14 year olds, and make airplane sounds when you have flight simulator booted up.

Your handle says it all, but you misspelled tool.

I was about to tell you that. Judging by you're last couple of posts, you're either still an instuctor or a junior RJ FO. Either way you really don't have a clue. "Totally Unproffessional"..."Cowboy" Jezzzus. Get a clue. Look at the TSA these days and all their BS rules and their zero tolerance policies. Now imagine that at the airlines. You have to use brain sometimes even against the dumbest of rules. Believe me the airlines AND THE FAA know that if everyone flew by the book bad things start to happen.

 

[G2T]

For all you "letter of the law types": back when pax absolutely, positively had to remain seated for the final 30 minutes into DC, the crew I was with asked a fed marshal about "what if someone really needs to go?". The Fed rolled his eyes and said, effectively: use some common sense! If they have to go, let them go, just be aware, and don't let them go for the cockpit door.

I believe that is called discretion. The next FAM that was extremely bored from their job, the neverending deadhead that you can't sleep on, would have shot them.

 

[Sarag79]

I am a flight attendant and don't undarsand how the FA is to blame here. I's not like she can give mx a call or decide what's MELed. We are trained that there is no discretion regarding FAR's unless the captainsays otherwise. If he wants to blame someone he needs to give the FAA a call since they decide that the lav is not necessary for a flight of that length. And if she had said sure go ahead go to the bathroom and his drunk a$$ got hurt while doing it who's fault would it be?

 

[acaTerry]

My favorite are the nazi hags who lock the crapper anytime the seatbelt sign is on. Get a life!

Do an ASRS search and use key word "turbulence". You will see a wealth of hospital-grade injuries from pax in the lav when the seatbelt sign was on. And I'll bet a lot of them are rich now.
That aside, I'd have recommended cracking the door open juuuuuuust enough to light the head, and have the FA block the aisle at the entrance to avoid peeping pax. That would have done the job.

 

[405]

I Am Customer Service! And So Are You.

You're "customer service" while the pax are on your plane. Outside of that, they're in the charge of almost minimum wage employees who could care less about where they go. They just want them out of their gate area.

Like I said earlier...

 

[capt. megadeth]

I would sue the living $hit out of Skyworst for this!!! And the pathetic excuse of a stewardess, too.

1,000,002

Sue happy passengers

 

[Prop2Jet]

So to follow our books or to break the rules to accommodate people? O but when if we allow them to use the rest room and they get hurt then they sue us for allowing them to get up. Catch 21 again. Maybe the dude should have not drank so much.......
Maybe our companies know they could fire us.....
Maybe this just sucks!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

So can anybody tell me the reason behind the apology in the first place? Trying to figure out what SKW's view on this is then.