Skywest bro's

[HelloNewman]

Another Kool Aid drinker that needs to step away from the punch bowl! Let go of the bowl Jr.

there are two different kinds of kool aid. Alpa kool aid and company kool aid. At this time i prefer the kool aid that requires me to pay no dues thanks.

 

[Morning Wood]

I had a buddy that attended the Embraer EMB-120 operators conference in FLL last week. Embraer told him that every single EMB-120 that is parked/in storage in the US (yes even the $hitty ASA ones' in Hot Springs) are spoken for and will all be put back on flying status although they did also say that there were a few in St. Geroge that were going to be parted out. I found that interesting.

I doubt that SkyWest is gonna dump the EMB-120's any time soon. Not at 1000 lbs./hour fuel burn and 30 pax...not with gas prices they way they are today and for the foreseeable future.

Cheers! (I agree...long live the Bro)

All the straight 118 engined ones that were parked in SGU are gone, so I'm not sure which ones this is referring to. Some went somewhere in Alaska (Fairbanks I think, but I can't remember) to be cargo haulers. A couple others went to HOT and a few more got sold to NASCAR teams in North Carolina.

The biggest problem with the Brasilia now is that they can't carry 30 people and a jumpseat anymore since the FAA upped the passenger and cargo weights. All the Delta Brasilia flying is "at-risk" and a few of the UAX markets that don't touch a hub are as well. I would venture a guess that if United ever makes the rest of the Brasilia flying "at-risk", more (if not all) them allocated for United will go bye-bye.

The Brasilia is a great airplane and served its purpose like the Metro did, but I have to wonder how carrying only 27-28 people around compares to the cost of buying and implementing a new turboprop type.

 

[Cardinal]

Who gives a ******************** how many amps the APU puts out? And yes, someone is in attendance when it's running.

As far as the FO's doing everything, no they do their share. Engines are started at the gate by the captain. Other than that, what are you talking about?

A classicly hostile flightinfo response, thank you. The aircraft you claim to be type-rated in is equipped with the Garrett GTCP 36-150A or the GTCP 36-150AA APU. Its a model number, nothing at all to do with amperage, all Brasilia APUs make 400 Amps. The -150A, however, lacks certain auto-shutdown features. Our -150AAs can be run all day long without a crew in attendance, hence the question. Our FOs start the engines and perform almost every first-flight-of-the-day tests, and I found that odd.

 

[theskyking]

A classicly hostile flightinfo response, thank you. The aircraft you claim to be type-rated in is equipped with the Garrett GTCP 36-150A or the GTCP 36-150AA APU. Its a model number, nothing at all to do with amperage, all Brasilia APUs make 400 Amps. The -150A, however, lacks certain auto-shutdown features. Our -150AAs can be run all day long without a crew in attendance, hence the question. Our FOs start the engines and perform almost every first-flight-of-the-day tests, and I found that odd.

The type that I "claim" to have was 2 types and what seems to be a life-time ago. So sorry if I didn't recognize a partial model number from the APU. I don't know that I ever knew the model number. Can't see as why I would need to.

My response was initiated by, what seemed to me, a condescending post on your part. If it wasn't, then I appologize and I guess that's one of the shortcomings of the written word.

 

[Delta Whiskey]

My money is on the last Brasilia leaving property in 2013.

Would that be when the new airport in SGU is scheduled to open?

 

[Russ]

Andy Neill

Are you still employed by SkyWest? Heard from a few folks you moved on. If not, all the best at your next endevour.

 

[Marko Ramius]

An accusation of a condescending post from a guy with the screename 'theskyking'? No point here, just found that funny.

 

[SKYW Pilot]

When Skywest retires the last CRJ, the crew will deadhead home on a Brasilia.

NOW THAT IS SOME FUNNY STUFF!! The "Bro" will never die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jetpig32]

I commute on the EMB to one of their lovely Wyoming destinations. The Brasilia sure does make a good 20 seat aircraft. (less with alternate fuel in the summer)

 

[Mookie]

Personal record.

15 pax, 400lbs in the back, and no alternate...wx CAVU. at least everyone got a bunch of legroom.

DEN-MTJ in the summer.
Mookie

 

[bmpilot2003]

Personal record.

15 pax, 400lbs in the back, and no alternate...wx CAVU. at least everyone got a bunch of legroom.

DEN-MTJ in the summer.
Mookie

12 people 90 lbs in the back, going to MTJ also. Clear and hot that day. No one got any leg room all the bags were jammed in the cabin!

 

[Bluto]

The socal system isn't nearly as bad. Sometimes we get kind of shafted in SAN when they're taking off 9, though. I wish I had cool stories like you DEN guys...

 

[Baze]

Mookie, you wuss... I took 15 PAX and 500 lbs DEN-DRO in the middle of the Summer with thunderstorms AND 2 alternates!

Just kidding of course.

 

[jbDC9]

I am all for bigger airframes at skywest. Career progression without the hassle of interviewing somewhere else.

Sure it is. Just because an airplane is at mainline doesn't mean its more profitable. Lets face it mainline has agreed to fly 90+ seat airplanes at or maybe even a bit less than we do at skywest. Why not get bigger planes at bigger rates. Mainline just isn't what it used to be. We might as well get bigger aircraft here. I sure don't feel like interviewing and starting all over somewhere else to take a paycut for a few years. This is 2006 not 2000, mainline is not the holy land it once was.

So, are you flamebaiting with statements like these or are you really just that stupid??

 

[bmpilot2003]

So, are you flamebaiting with statements like these or are you really just that stupid??

Add him to your ignore list. His first 70 post were absolute non sense.

 

[Andy Neill]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Neill
My money is on the last Brasilia leaving property in 2013.

Would that be when the new airport in SGU is scheduled to open?

I would hope the new SGU would be open sooner now that the environmental issues are cleared up.

Andy Neill

Are you still employed by SkyWest? Heard from a few folks you moved on. If not, all the best at your next endevour.

Thanks so much.

I did indeed. While I was at SkyWest, I did some very aggressive savings/investing and am now enoying living off of investments. I have appreciated your input to the SkyWest topics over the years. By the way, a thanks to Utah Pilot for the direction to investment training last January.

 

[Mookie]

Baze,

It doesn't count if you have to stop for gas in COS before heading over the front range to get there...

used the wrong call sign yet???
Mookie

 

[Baze]

As for the call sign, I almost did it on Wednesday during our FGAST session.

"Skyw'Alaska 12 *chuckle* ready to push at Delta 6 with Bravo..."

 

[Palomino]

A classicly hostile flightinfo response, thank you. The aircraft you claim to be type-rated in is equipped with the Garrett GTCP 36-150A or the GTCP 36-150AA APU. Its a model number, nothing at all to do with amperage, all Brasilia APUs make 400 Amps. The -150A, however, lacks certain auto-shutdown features. Our -150AAs can be run all day long without a crew in attendance, hence the question. Our FOs start the engines and perform almost every first-flight-of-the-day tests, and I found that odd.

i'm typed in the EMB-120 Brasilia (NOT a 'Bro') and i never flew a Garret APU'd airplane. Sundstrand also made an APU for the EMB-120 Brasilia. i think it had half the guts of the Garret...very wimpy output pneumatically speaking.

i could care less what the APU model # was. in fact, i don't know the model # of any airplane's APU that i'm typed in...including the current one. nor do i want to. there's no room for such trivia in a mind clogged with movie quotes and sports stats.

 

[Cardinal]

My apologies if I sounded condescending. I may have become used to the culture over at pprune, where pilots seem proud to fill their minds with aviation related "useless" knowledge, be it celestial nav, morse code, or obscure model numbers. So many pilots over here actively disdain information that they don't have to know, but I find that sentiment discouraging. How can you love airplanes if you don't care about airplanes?

The state of flightinfo is reflective of this attitude, it's a struggle to get a technical question answered. I once asked about the fly-by-wire logic and manual reversion in the E170 and the only attempt at an answer by somebody who flew the thing was "the instructor said its the best." Yeah I hope it works the best because if it fails you are eveidently going to become a manhole cover. That's just not the ethos amongst the airline pilots I've looked up to over the years.

 

[Palomino]

i learned long ago to fly the plane and not build it. my knowledge increases year over year as do my flying skills.

the guys who scare me most in the plane are those who know the weight of the pitot tube or the seatbelt restraining limit. they usually try to invert the airplane on an IFR approach.

i'm not an A&P or PFE. i r pilot and i fly safe plane.