Skywest/ASA one list

[Erlanger]

One or more unions representing ASA employees may seek a single carrier determination by the National Mediation Board, which could require SkyWest Airlines to recognize such union or unions as the certified bargaining representative of SkyWest Airlines' employees. One or more unions representing ASA employees may also assert that SkyWest Airlines' employees should be subject to ASA collective bargaining agreements.

With this statement from Skywest in their recent 10-K filing any reason why the ASA MEC has never attempted to have the two company's pilot senority lists merged? Is this not in their best interest?

 

[ohplease!]

With this statement from Skywest in their recent 10-K filing any reason why the ASA MEC has never attempted to have the two company's pilot senority lists merged? Is this not in their best interest?

if the lists were merged, there would have to be a vote on union representation for the newly formed list. There would be no guarantee of a "yes" vote and therefore a chance of a "no" vote. A "no" vote would nullify the current CBA that ASA pilots have....or thats how it was explained to me.

 

[asayankee]

With this statement from Skywest in their recent 10-K filing any reason why the ASA MEC has never attempted to have the two company's pilot senority lists merged? Is this not in their best interest?

This sort of "hypothetical" stuff is always included in 10K's and forward looking statements in general. Not a whole lot new here.

 

[CFI2766]

With this statement from Skywest in their recent 10-K filing any reason why the ASA MEC has never attempted to have the two company's pilot senority lists merged? Is this not in their best interest?

If the SKYW guys would get ALPA on property, I think this might happen. Without ALPA, there's no way I would risk the existing agreement to the whims of Inc..

 

[Tarzan]

With this statement from Skywest in their recent 10-K filing any reason why the ASA MEC has never attempted to have the two company's pilot senority lists merged? Is this not in their best interest?

What would the point be? Past precedent with Freedom and Go Jet have shown the NMB would likely not side with the union requesting single carrier status. Why waste the time and money on an effort that would go no where?

 

[wms]

Won't happen and most don't want it. I'm happy with what we have (and think there will be some improvements in the next contract) and it wouldn't get any better under one list.

SKYW has worse insurance etc. We don't need it.

 

[crj567]

Won't happen and most don't want it. I'm happy with what we have (and think there will be some improvements in the next contract) and it wouldn't get any better under one list.

SKYW has worse insurance etc. We don't need it.

I would wager ours will change.. And the union won't do anything to stop it.

 

[pipers]

Won't happen and most don't want it. I'm happy with what we have (and think there will be some improvements in the next contract) and it wouldn't get any better under one list.

SKYW has worse insurance etc. We don't need it.

We are just a preview. Watch out.

 

[CX880]

I would wager ours will change.. And the union won't do anything to stop it.

U R The Union.

 

[crj567]

U R The Union.

Not so fast... A lot of us voted for some new people in hopes we would see new faces at the top... The same exact people were put right back up on the MEC.

-Are we really being represented when anyone who has any different or new ideas is drummed out? I am very concerned that our leadership has become more concerned with their own individual needs rather than our collective need.

-Remember how long we saw the same people at the top of Comair's MEC? We sure don't want that mess.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

What would the point be? Past precedent with Freedom and Go Jet have shown the NMB would likely not side with the union requesting single carrier status. Why waste the time and money on an effort that would go no where?

Because the very reasons the gheyjett/TSA single carrier status wouldn't fly, are invalid for SKYW/ASA deal. TSA/gheyjett, were flying different equipment for different carriers, and completely different route segments. SKYW/ASA share carriers, routes and until recently domiciles. Take the Bush cabinet out of the equation and it would be a slam dunk, with a new representation election and that scares ALPA.
PBR

 

[Tarzan]

Because the very reasons the gheyjett/TSA single carrier status wouldn't fly, are invalid for SKYW/ASA deal. TSA/gheyjett, were flying different equipment for different carriers, and completely different route segments. SKYW/ASA share carriers, routes and until recently domiciles. Take the Bush cabinet out of the equation and it would be a slam dunk, with a new representation election and that scares ALPA.
PBR

Go Jet and TSA shared routes. When GoJet was being stood up, TSA did some of those routes. Share STL as a domicile or did. Not sure now. They did fly different equipment but that was about it. I understand your argument but I don't think it carries too much water.

The only two ways the two end up with merged lists are:
1. A grassroots effort by the OO pilot group that ends up with representation and a petition is successfully pushed through.
2. Jerry says, "Screw it" and puts the two together.

Both are unlikely scenarios unless you guys at OO are really getting pissed.

 

[CFIT]

An independent union for ALL SkyWest pilots.

Think about it, ALPO doesn't give a sh*t about the regionals, except their dues money.

 

[wms]

The union doesn't decide our benefits or our contract. We do. Hopefully this time people read before they vote.

 

[wms]

We are just a preview. Watch out.

We get a vote, SKYW pilots don't.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I understand your argument but I don't think it carries too much water.

It isn't my argument, it was the NMBs decision/argument.
PBR

 

[Tarzan]

It isn't my argument, it was the NMBs decision/argument.
PBR

I know what the decision was. TSA pilots had a much better chance of doing this than we do. TSA became TSH and created Goat Jet. Much different scenario we have here. I am all for it though. If someone gets a lawyer to argue it and the NMB makes it so, I'll shed no tears.