SkyWest airplane in the mud in peoria

[ePilot22]

Well, goes to show how much I pay attention to what specific people write on hear. I thought, since you mentioned me not questioning on what Erlanger said in context in defending unions or ALPA, that it must have been something negative towards unions or ALPA.

Cool.




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[Nevets]

So if SkyWest pilots had a legally enforceable contract they would be real professionals and real professionals don't run-off taxiways --->

I don't see how you make that leap. Just because you are a professional, does not mean you wont make mistakes. The difference is that if you are a member of an airline union, you will be defended by a dispute clause that is legally enforced through the RLA by virtue of being recognized by the NMB. Otherwise you end of like DD having to defend yourself using thousands of dollars out of pocket with no guarantee you will get that money back.

 

[ePilot22]

I don't see how you make that leap. Just because you are a professional, does not mean you wont make mistakes. The difference is that if you are a member of an airline union, you will be defended by a dispute clause that is legally enforced through the RLA by virtue of being recognized by the NMB. Otherwise you end of like DD having to defend yourself using thousands of dollars out of pocket with no guarantee you will get that money back.

Thank you. I am now a better person for this understanding that I could not have possessed prior to reading your posts. I will no longer make any leaps or take any jabs at any members of FlightInfo.com. I will not take any union or ALPA's name in vein. I have learned my lesson. I am on the straight and narrow and will only use the knowledge I have acquired to advance the cause. I will bring only joy to the lives of other. I will give everything I can and ask for nothing in return. I will unite with my fellow aviators in order to form a more perfect union....


I'm still bored.




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[Nevets]

Thank you. I am now a better person for this understanding that I could not have possessed prior to reading your posts. I will no longer make any leaps or take any jabs at any members of FlightInfo.com. I will not take any union or ALPA's name in vein. I have learned my lesson. I am on the straight and narrow and will only use the knowledge I have acquired to advance the cause. I will bring only joy to the lives of other. I will give everything I can and ask for nothing in return. I will unite with my fellow aviators in order to form a more perfect union....

Finally, you have opened your eyes and get it.

 

[ePilot22]

Finally, you have opened your eyes and get it.

Do the DEW! :beer:




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[willbob]

I didn't call you an ALPA cheerleader.



So if SkyWest pilots had a legally enforceable contract they would be real professionals and real professionals don't run-off taxiways --->


This is boring.




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You two need to get a room.

 

[WayBack]

So if SkyWest pilots had a legally enforceable contract they would be real professionals and real professionals don't run-off taxiways --->.

If SkyWest was ALPA, they would have taken multiple paycuts followed by furloughs.

And I don't see how having a contract makes one more of a "professional" over another pilot. To me, the word professional is an over used term to inflate ones self esteem. The Unions and Management used that word to cover up the "less than professional" treatment they hand down to it's pilots.

 

[ePilot22]

You two need to get a room.

Feel free to join us.




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[ePilot22]

If SkyWest was ALPA, they would have taken multiple paycuts followed by furloughs.

And I don't see how having a contract makes one more of a "professional" over another pilot. To me, the word professional is an over used term to inflate ones self esteem. The Unions and Management used that word to cover up the "less than professional" treatment they hand down to it's pilots.

WayBack, I can tell you are lost and in need of some guidance. As a fellow FI member and someone who now sees the light, I would like to take this opportunity to spread the "word"...

Just because you are a professional, does not mean you wont make mistakes. The difference is that if you are a member of an airline union, you will be defended by a dispute clause that is legally enforced through the RLA by virtue of being recognized by the NMB. Otherwise you end of like DD having to defend yourself using thousands of dollars out of pocket with no guarantee you will get that money back.

Word to big bird!




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[Nevets]

If SkyWest was ALPA, they would have taken multiple paycuts followed by furloughs.

Why is that?

 

[WayBack]

WayBack, I can tell you are lost and in need of some guidance. As a fellow FI member and someone who now sees the light, I would like to take this opportunity to spread the "word"...

You're kidding right?

Originally Posted by Nevets
Just because you are a professional, does not mean you wont make mistakes. The difference is that if you are a member of an airline union, you will be defended by a dispute clause that is legally enforced through the RLA by virtue of being recognized by the NMB. Otherwise you end of like DD having to defend yourself using thousands of dollars out of pocket with no guarantee you will get that money back.

I have worked for non-union carrier. I have done the carpet dance. It's never cost me a penny. I have known several people who have gone infront of the chopping block at non-union carrier. It's never cost them a penny.
Now, the times were you really mess up and need a lawyer...well, maybe it's best you be terminated because your royally screwed up and don't belong in the cockpit.

 

[ePilot22]

You're kidding right?

I am. Sorry Nevets.




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[WayBack]

Why is that?

Because it's in ALPA's nature to agree to paycuts. Not to mention the 2% you lose for a crappy magazine.
Look at all the airlines who took paycuts in the last 10yrs. All ALPA.
Who is furloughing pilots now? All ALPA carrier, the non-ALPA carriers aren't furloughing.

I guess that goes under their motto of "Live to Fight Another Day".

 

[WayBack]

Yeah the non union airlines just take away health benefits, pay and pretty much anything they want.
PBR

Really? Airline management has their way molesting ALPA and it's pilot groups, and there is nothing ALPA/pilots can do about it.

ALPA needs to update their pamphlet they're handing out to you, because you guys have a false sense of what ALPA is and what ALPA can't do.

 

[Lear70]

And yes, I've gone back and removed the other attacks as well.

Clear is right, NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS or we're just gonna lock the thread and send all the offenders off to think about it for a week...