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Skybus in the red by $16 million
Numbers not a surprise, airline says, but analysts are wary
Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:10 AM
By Marla Matzer Rose


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
The first look at Skybus Airlines' financial performance shows that the no-frills Columbus startup lost $16 million during the three months ended Sept. 30.
Company officials said they expected to lose money before becoming profitable sometime next year, while some analysts said this first look provided some troubling signs for the airline.
Skybus' loss was based on operating revenue of $22 million, according to data released by the U.S. Department of Transportation yesterday. Skybus planes were 79 percent full on average during its first few months, a respectable number that put the airline sixteenth among the 96 reporting airlines.
Skybus officials said the data represent only a few months when Skybus was just starting to fly and was ramping up for flights added after the end of September. The results were "in line" with expectations, said Bob Tenenbaum, airline spokesman.
Still, two airline experts expressed concern that Skybus' yields -- an industry benchmark that is calculated by dividing passenger revenue by passenger miles -- have been very weak. In October, Skybus moved to address that by announcing that it would cut three of its five West Coast flights, since long-haul flights can't generate enough additional revenue to cover the added operating costs.
Skybus' passenger yield for the quarter was 5.08 cents, compared with Southwest Airlines' 12.50 and the average 13.00 among major national carriers.
"These are rock-bottom yields, especially in this age of skyrocketing fuel costs," said Joseph Schwieterman, a DePaul University professor and former pricing analyst for United Airlines.
"In fairness to them, this is their first quarter, and the traffic growth has been quite impressive," Schwieterman continued. "But their costs may not allow selling so many seats at nominal prices. The (passenger numbers) are solid for a startup, but the publicity generated by the $10 fares isn't filling up the seats."
A number of airlines this summer were reporting planes that were 85 percent to 90 percent full on average. Since its launch, Skybus has sold at least 10 seats on every flight for $10 -- a price that the airline admits doesn't turn a profit but that's designed to gain publicity and stimulate demand.
Another industry consultant, Mike Boyd of the Evergreen, Colo.-based Boyd Group, called the yield numbers "appalling." Boyd, who has long said he didn't think the Skybus model would work, said yesterday that the figures prove his prediction.
"This is just not a very good plan, but that doesn't mean they can't turn it around by scrapping the model," Boyd said. "There are examples of airlines that changed plans. Frontier Airlines is now highly successful, for example. (Skybus officials) need to see they've got a problem on their hands and fix it if they want to be around in a year."
The Dispatch Printing Company, publisher of The Dispatch, owns a minority stake in Skybus.
 
well since the yield is only 5 cents a mile, then the more planes put in the air and the more labor increases, the more the losses wil mount. many ceos or business owners will often shrink into profitibility, an easy way to bring costs in line with revenues. but skybus is expanding...a tought ask to pull off. 90/oil is here to stay.

in my view, the biggest problem for them is that over the last ten years , Greensboro has never had more that 1.4 million passengers. YTD 915,000.

diffenderfer said that at its full strength, the hub should enplane 1.6 million pax.

THAT'S A WHOPPING 300% increase in a market that has never been half that and is currently averaging 1 mil a year.

In a study of the STATE of NC DOT concerning air travel, SH&E sites the numbers that given the proximity to CLT and RDU , there simply isn't enough paying customers who would forego travel choices in these two markets in exchange for a seat similar in cost to fly into airports an hour away from their real hotel spot.


Bottom line, given the report, they wil have to scrap this plan and become another typical LCC. unless trends change

....and unless North Carolina experiences the rapid migration of an addtional 1.5 million air travelers from other states willing to fly skybus, they'll have to change course.
 
Plus $3+/gal gas is not much of an incentive to get in the car and drive 2 hours anymore. Airfares have come down considerably both in CLT and RDU the last 3 years.

Ive lived in the piedmont for over 30 years. Seen alot of LCCs come and go in GSO. I think Im going to see another. There just has never been enough O&D traffic.
 
i agree, i failed to mention the other challenge is how to raise the yield which could only come in the form of a ticket price increase. how do you stay true to the model if you do it. in short, they'll have to change.

i'd drop the two collars cokes and gangplanks immediately, start using jetways.
 
i agree, i failed to mention the other challenge is how to raise the yield which could only come in the form of a ticket price increase. how do you stay true to the model if you do it. in short, they'll have to change.

i'd drop the two collars cokes and gangplanks immediately, start using jetways.

Nice swimsuit!

With lower loads in winter the next quarter may well be far worse. GSO is a growing area but nowhere near the numbers they forecast. Using jetways goes against their low cost structure and is not likely to happen any time soon. Passengers will just have to suck it up and enjoy the chilly stroll to the airplane. If the pax get cold perhaps it will stimulate coffee and blanket sales!

When they fail it will likely be the fault of the overpaid pilots!
 
i just went on the GSO (piedmont Triad Int'l website)

and searched statistics. Is this where you got your info. it seems to match.

i'm considering leaving corporate and trying to get on since i live in the area. ya'll sure are tough on them.
 
i just went on the GSO (piedmont Triad Int'l website)

and searched statistics. Is this where you got your info. it seems to match.

i'm considering leaving corporate and trying to get on since i live in the area. ya'll sure are tough on them.


You will be redefining the term " selling yourself short" if you leave your current job to go to skybus. There are numerous opportunities out there
 
i'm considering leaving corporate and trying to get on since i live in the area. ya'll sure are tough on them.

And this coming from a man of genius:rolleyes: selling yourself short will have an effect on generations to come. You might be thinking of your own situation but think about this. Was there a real need to redefine a new bottom at this time? I know that sometimes you have to take a job you don't really want, back on the last downturn of the industry (early 90's) I went down from a 727 to flying charters in light twins and I was one of the lucky ones. Is this really the same situations here? I wonder if Skumbus would have not gotten any takers at that salary rate, would they have not gotten on with the project? Or would have they re structure the salary rate closer to industry standards? They did it because they know that pilots will sell themselfs short. Not because they needed those salary rates to be able to do business.
If we don't demmand decent wages when the industry is on an upswing, when will we?
 
The only thing attractive to me was the out n backs and home at night. i spend most nights a t home now. as do most, i do things on the side to get by.

To your point, no they wouldn't have. i hear they do not answer the phone at all. everything done by email. you would think with a labor shortage this will all change and turn back the other way. i'm going to a job fair in dallas on jan 26th. they're not the only game in town. By not being in now, i risk not being able to hold gso captain
 

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