skybus; facts and commments..lessons

[climbhappy]

aisde from the remarks that do nothing but incense, there are simple truths about business and some stark realitites about this failed experiment:

1) at the end , greensboro traffic, their second focus city remianed unchanged last month from a year ago. about 85,000 pax. Diffenderfer swore they would increase GSO traffic by 150%. though only three months into it, the numbers weren't there.
2) you cannot be the "lowest cost provider in an industry where costs are rising. it makes no ecomomic or common sense

lesson: I would have never launched a business at the tail end of a boom cycle. the dot com bubble burst at the end of the 90's. this boom , made up of housing values has ended.
past data shows the airline industry will take 24 months to rebound from a bust.

3) the SX approach was so radical and unorthodox, though tried in europe, it may never have caught on even if oil wasn't so high.
in america, women still shave their underarms. so some things will never "catch on" over here.

BEST of all. Sx will help the industry, by being the tail end of a pricing strategy that isn't compatible with what the cost to provide the service add up to.

This shakeout will help by reducing capacity, increasing ticket prices which increase revenues. Industry consolidation has to take place and maybe this help pilot wages come up in the end, which is really what drew the ire of everyone in the first place when it came to skybus.

these guys aren't to be reviled , but maybe helped and told "now you know" best of luck!

 

[FLYfishin]

This shakeout will help by reducing capacity, increasing ticket prices which increase revenues. Industry consolidation has to take place and maybe this help pilot wages come up in the end, which is really what drew the ire of everyone in the first place when it came to skybus.

these guys aren't to be reviled , but maybe helped and told "now you know" best of luck!

Skybus' downfall will have NO affect on the industry. They didn't even account for 1/10 of one percent of the market share. I would be willing to bet that 95% of Americans never even heard of Skybus.

 

[climbhappy]

that could be said, but any capacity reduction is still a reduction. i think the greensboro traffic shows that there was a huge drop off of pax flying mainline carriers due to the slowdown. SX enplanements skewed the number since it was flat with no increase.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Skybus' downfall will have NO affect on the industry. They didn't even account for 1/10 of one percent of the market share. I would be willing to bet that 95% of Americans never even heard of Skybus.

I bet that every negotiating group that flew airbus or comparable airplanes had to deal with management throwing skybus wages at them saying this is what we have to compete with, you are overpaid.

 

[Ameriagle]

Skybus' downfall will have NO affect on the industry. They didn't even account for 1/10 of one percent of the market share. I would be willing to bet that 95% of Americans never even heard of Skybus.

It has very little to do with Skybus's market share. When they set ticket prices it ripples through the entire industry who are attempting to match those prices! Indy Air's footprint was not much bigger but the wreaked havoc on ticket prices up and down the east coast, back in the day, because everybody dropped ticket prices to match.

 

[Jimmy C. Corn]

here's a fact about skybus:

"Pilots" who whore themselves out at those wages, lured by the promise to get rich on "stock options" and the platitude that "things will get better" deserve what they got.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

here's a fact about skybus:

"Pilots" who whore themselves out at those wages, lured by the promise to get rich on "stock options" and the platitude that "things will get better" deserve what they got.

They're lower than whores...they're scabs.
They lower the bar by accepting flying jobs for very low wages knowing that their fellow pilots are fighting for better pay on that same equipment. They're taking a job from another pilot who would normally only do it for at least twice of what the Skybus pilots were getting paid. I feel sorry for the innocent families of those idiots, because they have nothing to do with it, but those whores got exactly what they deserved.

 

[skypine69]

this coming from a guy who supports mccain! he is anti pilot as they come! suprising for a former pilot!

 

[TheInsider]

They're lower than whores...they're scabs.
They lower the bar by accepting flying jobs for very low wages knowing that their fellow pilots are fighting for better pay on that same equipment. They're taking a job from another pilot who would normally only do it for at least twice of what the Skybus pilots were getting paid. I feel sorry for the innocent families of those idiots, because they have nothing to do with it, but those whores got exactly what they deserved.

Hold your horses there for a minute. You must be a youngster in this industry with that kind of uneducated opinion/statement. A scab is something entirely different.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

Maybe not a scab in the traditional sense that you're thinking, but definitely scab-like.