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Come on guys,
I preach this to other CFI's and students I instruct or come in contact with. Don't waste your $$$ on flight bag and other stuff.
The standard backpack you had in HS and College works fine. You don't need a $$$ kneeboard and the other crap also, a 99 cent staples clipboard works.
Besides books and charts you only need to buy an E6B and fuel tester and foggles. A ruler, protractor, reg. flashlight and normal calculator work fine for any flight planning from private to ATP.
As far as $$$ purchaces goes a headset is the most expensive, just get the DC standard that work/last forever for around 220.
Skip the $$ headset bag and go to the local supermarket and buy a tupperware or like container (something I got from a retired TWA Capt.) to protect your headset while its in your backpack. That costs about 5 bucks instead of 30 plus and works better.
Since 1997 my CFI/GA flying flight bag and equipment has looked like this:
-10 + year old Jandd backpack from HS
-NY and Wash sectional
-E6B
-Foggles
-Fuel tester
-20 year old D cell plastic flashlight
-.99 cent brown clipboard with assorted info since 1990 taped or written all over it for easy ref.
-Headset in tupperware as stated above
-post-it pads for instrument cover-up
-small note pad
-assorted pens/pencils
- then I just toss my wallet with license, cell phone and sunglasses in and I'm ready to go.
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As far as books go I have my private guys get:
Airplane Flying Handbook
Gleim PP question manual
FAR's
PTS
C-172 POH or applicable aircraft manual
sectionals
notebook and a folder/binder
Thats all thats needed, about 100 bucks. Everything else I photocopy and have them put into a folder/binder or have them get it off the internet.
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I'm not tooting my horn or anything, I'd just rather see students/CFI's save or spend their $$ on flying instead of overprices usless aviation stuff from Sportys. Just some advice from someone who already made the mistake. I have a 100 plus sporty's flight bag I got in 1997 when i bacame a CFI. Its been my gym bag since 1999. The old backpack works better for flying.
I preach this to other CFI's and students I instruct or come in contact with. Don't waste your $$$ on flight bag and other stuff.
The standard backpack you had in HS and College works fine. You don't need a $$$ kneeboard and the other crap also, a 99 cent staples clipboard works.
Besides books and charts you only need to buy an E6B and fuel tester and foggles. A ruler, protractor, reg. flashlight and normal calculator work fine for any flight planning from private to ATP.
As far as $$$ purchaces goes a headset is the most expensive, just get the DC standard that work/last forever for around 220.
Skip the $$ headset bag and go to the local supermarket and buy a tupperware or like container (something I got from a retired TWA Capt.) to protect your headset while its in your backpack. That costs about 5 bucks instead of 30 plus and works better.
Since 1997 my CFI/GA flying flight bag and equipment has looked like this:
-10 + year old Jandd backpack from HS
-NY and Wash sectional
-E6B
-Foggles
-Fuel tester
-20 year old D cell plastic flashlight
-.99 cent brown clipboard with assorted info since 1990 taped or written all over it for easy ref.
-Headset in tupperware as stated above
-post-it pads for instrument cover-up
-small note pad
-assorted pens/pencils
- then I just toss my wallet with license, cell phone and sunglasses in and I'm ready to go.
-------------------------------------
As far as books go I have my private guys get:
Airplane Flying Handbook
Gleim PP question manual
FAR's
PTS
C-172 POH or applicable aircraft manual
sectionals
notebook and a folder/binder
Thats all thats needed, about 100 bucks. Everything else I photocopy and have them put into a folder/binder or have them get it off the internet.
_______________________________________________
I'm not tooting my horn or anything, I'd just rather see students/CFI's save or spend their $$ on flying instead of overprices usless aviation stuff from Sportys. Just some advice from someone who already made the mistake. I have a 100 plus sporty's flight bag I got in 1997 when i bacame a CFI. Its been my gym bag since 1999. The old backpack works better for flying.
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There's certainly something to be said for thriftiness, but there's also a matter of professionalism to consider. LearLove, what sort of impression do you think it'd make if you showed for a flight with your flight kit contained in one of those paper grocery bags with handles? I'm sure you could fit all your stuff in one, and it's far cheaper than a flight case from Scott Leather, right? For that matter, why bother with a headset? Every plane has an overhead speaker and a hand mike, and you can just use earplugs--or cheaper yet, just stuff cotton in your ears, right?
Obviously I'm taking things to the level of hyperbole, but especially in this market, CFIs have to sell an image of professionalism if they want to make the impression that they're going to provide professional flight instruction. How they dress, how they conduct themselves, and yes, the tools they choose to equip themselves with, all speak to that image of professionalism. Showing up with your headset in a Tupperware container sends one of two messages: a) you're slightly nutty and thus, your judgment is a bit questionable, or b), you cut corners wherever possible and thus, your judgment is a bit questionable. Either way, you're giving someone a reason to not fly with you. As I suggested before, in a market where CFIs are a dime a dozen, giving people ANY reason to fly with someone else is simply stupid. It's the same reason you went and bought a conservative navy blue suit for your airline interview.
Beyond the looks thing, I marveled at your suggestion that people just go with a passive headset. Either you don't understand the long-term damage to your hearing that can be prevented by using an ANR headset, or your hearing is worth less to you than the $300 difference in price. Being from the generation who spent far too many hours with their walkman volume cranked to 10, and suffering a not insignificant amount of mid-range loss here in my mid-30's because of it, an ANR headset was a no-brainer. Having made that investment, the second no-brainer was to buy a padded camcorder bag to protect it from the school of hard knocks, which delicate electronics don't respond to well. I bought that bag at a consumer electronics discounter and guess what--I paid a 25% premium over the price of the Sky High bag above, for a bag that offers less utility in terms of organization and storage. In other words, I got less value out of my bag than the Sky High one offers. Even the thriftiest shoppers know to shop for best value, not lowest price.
Obviously I'm taking things to the level of hyperbole, but especially in this market, CFIs have to sell an image of professionalism if they want to make the impression that they're going to provide professional flight instruction. How they dress, how they conduct themselves, and yes, the tools they choose to equip themselves with, all speak to that image of professionalism. Showing up with your headset in a Tupperware container sends one of two messages: a) you're slightly nutty and thus, your judgment is a bit questionable, or b), you cut corners wherever possible and thus, your judgment is a bit questionable. Either way, you're giving someone a reason to not fly with you. As I suggested before, in a market where CFIs are a dime a dozen, giving people ANY reason to fly with someone else is simply stupid. It's the same reason you went and bought a conservative navy blue suit for your airline interview.
Beyond the looks thing, I marveled at your suggestion that people just go with a passive headset. Either you don't understand the long-term damage to your hearing that can be prevented by using an ANR headset, or your hearing is worth less to you than the $300 difference in price. Being from the generation who spent far too many hours with their walkman volume cranked to 10, and suffering a not insignificant amount of mid-range loss here in my mid-30's because of it, an ANR headset was a no-brainer. Having made that investment, the second no-brainer was to buy a padded camcorder bag to protect it from the school of hard knocks, which delicate electronics don't respond to well. I bought that bag at a consumer electronics discounter and guess what--I paid a 25% premium over the price of the Sky High bag above, for a bag that offers less utility in terms of organization and storage. In other words, I got less value out of my bag than the Sky High one offers. Even the thriftiest shoppers know to shop for best value, not lowest price.
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Your kidding aren't you,
First of all a backpack it just as neat as a flightbag and as for the Tupperware, I guess the 20 plus professional airline pilots that have taken the idea from me and keep their headset in one are questionable too (then please don't fly on my airline, I wouldn't want you around us "questionable" pilots).
For airline flying I have a Telex 750 which fits neatly in a large sandwich sized Tupperware container and then fits neatly with Jepps and manuals in a leather flight bag (I have a scott leather bag). Much neater and more professional than letting it flop all over inside the bag without it.
As for your comments on the speaker, I like many others here learned without a headset, I have no hearing problems almost 15years later. I started when I was 15 and got my pvt at 17 without a headset. I started using one after my pvt when I did my inst. We often fly the Dash without a headset (of course above 180) and have guys with 25 years plus that hardly use headsets that have no hearing loss.
but that just comes from a "questionable" pilot with thousands more hours than your "professional" self. whatever!!!!! what do I know?
First of all a backpack it just as neat as a flightbag and as for the Tupperware, I guess the 20 plus professional airline pilots that have taken the idea from me and keep their headset in one are questionable too (then please don't fly on my airline, I wouldn't want you around us "questionable" pilots).
For airline flying I have a Telex 750 which fits neatly in a large sandwich sized Tupperware container and then fits neatly with Jepps and manuals in a leather flight bag (I have a scott leather bag). Much neater and more professional than letting it flop all over inside the bag without it.
As for your comments on the speaker, I like many others here learned without a headset, I have no hearing problems almost 15years later. I started when I was 15 and got my pvt at 17 without a headset. I started using one after my pvt when I did my inst. We often fly the Dash without a headset (of course above 180) and have guys with 25 years plus that hardly use headsets that have no hearing loss.
but that just comes from a "questionable" pilot with thousands more hours than your "professional" self. whatever!!!!! what do I know?
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