SkidMark Plus

[SkyNation]

EMB pilots 509 - 80% Yes = 407
CRJ CA 1218 - 70% Yes = 852
CRJ FO 1095 - 20% Yes = 219
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Total Yes votes for ALPA 1478 or 52%

Close, no doubt, but ALPA still wins

this is pure fantasy, at least in SLC among the many, many I've asked. I'd put CA on the RJ at more like 60/40 in terms of AGAINST/FOR.

FOs I think you have low, I'd say it's more like 35% FOR.

I predict only around 1800 actually vote, with maybe 600-700 voting FOR.

 

[indianboy7]

It should only hurt QOL for reserves who will become more firmly everyone else's whipping boys and girls.

The reserve QOL already sucks....i'm going on month 5 with over 100 hrs of credit......it definitely can't get much worse.....

 

[jea]

The best thing to do is to not vote... Then alpa will continue to provide free lunches.... More than we would ever recieve from their representation.. ohhh and skedplus or whatever is as has been mentioned a great thing if staffing works out.... jetblue uses it and its amazing for them.

 

[Bako Cap]

If the majority informed themselves, they would know that ALPA would benefit them!

Informed = pro ALPA
Uninformed = anti ALPA

Got it............

But then wouldn't ignorant = Teamsters?

 

[SkyNation]

ha ha, not even close.

it's more like:

have experience being represented by ALPA=anti ALPA

have never been part of a union AND bitter, angry type=pro ALPA

 

[doug_or]

ha ha, not even close.

it's more like:

have experience being represented by ALPA=anti ALPA

have never been part of a union AND bitter, angry type=pro ALPA

My last carrier was ALPA, and I plan to vote in favor.

That being said, I think you are right on with your guess. I was saying 42% in favor, but with the telephone voting system I think It will be lower, probably 35-40.

 

[Nightrain_080]

Not going to help the bottom 2/3rds.

Precisely.

So Nightrain_080, was it just management bashing (not entirely undeserved, mind you) or do you see a way it might be bad?

You thought PBS took away vacation and user time fast, just wait and see how happy SGU will be when all the Vacation time and user time gets wiped off the books even faster with Skid minus. The reserves will still be used wrong while staffing can't keep up with training and attrition.

When fliers and booklets come out and BH wants it then how can it possibly be good for QOL? Red flags everywhere.

Have fun burning up your vacation and user time with PBS and skid minus.

 

[Bako Cap]

Actually nightrain, I believe that this will be a better application for junior and commuting crewmembers than senior crewmembers. The senior crewmembers will most likely have gotten what they wanted with PBS so they will not be modifying their schedule much. But as stated several times, Sked+ is very dependant on reserve staffing.

 

[rtmcfi]

ha ha, not even close.

it's more like:

have experience being represented by ALPA=anti ALPA

have never been part of a union AND bitter, angry type=pro ALPA

I am formerly Alpa, and I plan on voting yes. Stop speaking for me.

 

[Jmoney]

I'd vote for ALPA

ha ha, not even close.

it's more like:

have experience being represented by ALPA=anti ALPA

have never been part of a union AND bitter, angry type=pro ALPA

-I will never work for an airline that doesn't have ALPA. At least we can say "no" when the company tries to shove a sorry contract down our throats.......
-What can you do? ---------, pretty quiet over there........

-You and Joe Merchant need to go and get a room-you should collaborate. Two retards are often more entertaining than one.

-You sir, are a self-serving moron.

 

[GearBayOverheat]

I'm former ALPA...another YES vote!!!

 

[SkyNation]

where were you prior? if it was so great, why did you leave?

 

[GearBayOverheat]

CoEx

Got furloughed through no fault of ALPA.

A couple years ago a bunch of radical islamic terrorists decided it would be fun to kill a bunch of people. Maybe you've heard the story?

 

[jea]

go back... the only thing alpa will do for skywest is the random free lunch... unless they are voted in... then they will stop that- but you can still get bumper stickers im sure

 

[SkyNation]

CoEx

Got furloughed through no fault of ALPA.

I thought that all of the CoEx guys who came here went back to CoEx when recalled. CoEx is a good place to be, why did you stay here?

 

[joe_pilot]

You thought PBS took away vacation and user time fast, just wait and see how happy SGU will be when all the Vacation time and user time gets wiped off the books even faster with Skid minus. The reserves will still be used wrong while staffing can't keep up with training and attrition.

When fliers and booklets come out and BH wants it then how can it possibly be good for QOL? Red flags everywhere.

Have fun burning up your vacation and user time with PBS and skid minus.

Hmmm. Ok, I can possibly see that it might lower vacation/user time, but ONLY if reserve levels are high enough. Or if there are people willing to pick up a dropped trip. In the latter case I guess I can see where this might come out in management's favor.
Since you couldn't drop below min hours using the swap board before, I guess this does setup a situation where you might use more of your accrued time off. Kind of like vega$ where the house always comes out ahead: They don't force you to put your money on the table (For SGU: Use your accrued time), they just give you the opportunity and know the house always wins.

But then again, it does give crews an option to do this, where they couldn't before. Even though it might be a bit of an advantage for management (assuming it is good for vacation/user time to get used), I think this might be a good potential improvement to our QOL.

Thoughts?

-JP

 

[joe_pilot]

Oh yeah, ditto for me in SLC. All red arrows. I did post a trip for drop, though. The UI is much beter than the swapboard.

 

[GearBayOverheat]

I thought that all of the CoEx guys who came here went back to CoEx when recalled. CoEx is a good place to be, why did you stay here?

You thought wrong. A few of us stayed. Those that did all had their own reasons for not taking recall back to CoEx. I stayed because I really like working for SkyWest. (and couldn't stand the thought of living in Newark again) Being in favor of ALPA doesn't make you anti SkyWest....in spite of your best efforts to spin it that way.

go back...

I'm afraid that ship has sailed.

 

[Eric]

I left my ALPA carrier for SkyWest so I could be based in the mountains and participate in the activities I enjoy on my time off. Maybe ALPA will allow me to create some rules that make my schedule as good as it used to be at my ALPA carrier.

I know RED ARROWS aren't going to do it.

 

[SkyNation]

Being in favor of ALPA doesn't make you anti SkyWest....in spite of your best efforts to spin it that way./quote]

agreed.

and being against ALPA at SkyWest doesn't make you anti-ALPA, or anti-union, or pro-SAPA, despite your efforts to spin it that way.