Andy, what an out of character answer for you.... My point is simply this, can skywest, aca, airwhiskey etc be profitable if they are actually selling seats and not just being paid to fly an empty airplane..And the point of that is, dont compare the profit that you can make as a contract carrier to that of an airline like southwest that is actually profitable because they have figured out how to haul people at a profit. You see if your contract rates get cut to the bone or done away with completely( and dont think for a minute that that cant happen), you would not be profitable in this market... with no way to market ,sell tickets, accept credit cards,no web check in, no online reservations etc, etc , how would you all stay in business. If I was a regional pilot ,I would be concerned about that sort of thing..And since you seem to have your ear to the ground on these types of issues, I was curious thats all...........