Simple question

[cessna_driver2]

Difference between a Yankee and a Dam*ed Yankee.

A Yankee just comes to visit; a Dam*ed Yankee stays.

You know what they say: "Keep the south beautiful, stick a Yankee on the bus."

 

[flywithastick]

Perspective, perhaps. Except that the confederacy attempted to divide the country, split the union. A better word for that would be high treason.

or maybe secession, if you'll recall your history, US and state government. The only major difference between what the original 13 colonies did in the late 18th century and what the CSA did 100 years later (aside from the Constitutional provisions for state soverignty), was that the Southern states lost the resulting conflict.

A-squared - I don't much care for your characterization. Your comments *remind me* that those not capable of a civil, thoughtful debate on a topic will instead just sling a few names.

Also, why do you sign your posts "regards" after making your s#itty comments?

 

[Typhoon1244]

A-Squared...why do you sign your posts "regards" after making your s#itty comments?

I've been wondering about that too. I think it's because he's an insincere @#%&*!

But I could be wrong.

 

[A Squared]

Flywithastick,

You may not have noticed, but the inability of some southerners to let the Civil War fade into history was one of the topics of this thread well before you and others began discussing the meaning and causes of the Civil War. You see, threads often have several related, but separate discussions going concurrently. My comments were adding to that theme, not to yours. As far as not caring for my comments, if you aren’t one of those who run around believing that the south will rise again, my characterization shouldn’t disturb you as it obviously wasn’t directed at you, nor was it directed at southerners in general. If you believe that it is an inaccurate characterization, by all means, explain why it is off base.

If, however. you are one of those who believe that the Civil War is still very much alive, and it’s just a matter of time before Dixie rises up and whups some yankee ass, well, yes, you are included in that characterization. If that characterization bothers you, perhaps you ought to consider why it bothers you, rather than merely voicing you objections to it. If you are in that group to which that characterization was addressed, perhaps you could answer this; How is saying "The south will rise again" or "The civil War Isn’t Over" somehow more intelligent, or more honorable, or less petty, or less juvenile than the British barfly still living the Revolutionary War? I would say there are far more parallels than dissimilarities.

A good portion of my family tree is rooted in Ireland. I suppose that I could spend a lot of time and energy obsessing about what happened between my distant ancestors and someone else’s distant ancestors, but I don’t. Life is too short.

As for the regards, sometimes I mean it sincerely, sometimes it is dripping with irony.
I suspect that most can tell which is which.

 

[flywithastick]

You may not have noticed, but the inability of some southerners to let the Civil War fade into history was one of the topics of this thread well before you and others began discussing the meaning and causes of the Civil War. You see, threads often have several related, but separate discussions going concurrently. My comments were adding to that theme, not to yours.

Rereading your post, I see where you did qualify your comment. Obviously, I responded it too quickly, inferring you were speaking generally of all Southerners. You have my appology. I have no great respect for those who seriously believe the South will or should "rise again."

As far as not caring for my comments, if you aren’t one of those who run around believing that the south will rise again, my characterization shouldn’t disturb you as it obviously wasn’t directed at you, nor was it directed at southerners in general. If you believe that it is an inaccurate characterization, by all means, explain why it is off base.

As I said above, I took your comments as a general negative characterization of all Southerners. I have no hopes for any future action by Southern states. My interest lies only with understanding the history of the period and how Southern Americans are viewed currently. As with all groups, there are those who fit into the extemities. Those who you characterize in your comments would be the extremists and not typical.

Now I would be open to discussion on Texas seceeding from the United States! Unfortunately, this idea is about 20-30 years past due. We have so many other people who've come here, on average there's little to no personal identity with being a Texan any longer. I believe we would thrive as an independent nation - again.

happy flying (really!)

 

[Typhoon1244]

You have my appology.

So all Southerners sppell "appology" like that?

It's okay, I are a southerner too...born in Florida, raised in Tennessee and Texas. Of course, all my friends and neighbors in Florida were Jewish folks from New York. They never really got into all this "the South shall rise again" nonsense. Meshuga.

"Cop a walk. 's'alright."
--Mel Brooks, Blazing Saddles

 

[flywithastick]

So all Southerners sppell "appology" like that?

Two p's means you *really* mean it!!

 

[A Squared]

Flywithastick,

Sorry that you initially misunderstood my comments.

>>>My interest lies only with understanding the history of the period and how Southern Americans are viewed currently.

Nothing wrong with that. History is important, and I would never suggest that it be forgotten, just that it be viewed as history, not current events. I realize that the folks we're discussing are the extremists, but they are common enough to color outsider's perceptions of southerners.
Take for example Katanabob's professor. It's one thing to speak of the Civil War as the War of northern aggression, it's done to make a point, and the point is that there's a lot more to the Civil War than the junior high history books let on and Northern economic exploitation of the south was probably a significant element. Ok, all well and good, but when the professor stoops to deducting points from an exam for referring to the war by it's most comonly accepted title, he is no longer teaching and becomes a petty tyrant, abusing his position to retaliate against a "Yankee" I'm sure that left a pretty strong impression with Katanabob.

Regarding Texas secession, I don't know, sometimes the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, and it's difficult to see all the ways in which that is true. There's a certain amount of popular support for Alaska sececeding, and it's appealing at an emotional level. I think that if we did though, we'd be pretty rudely surprised when the flow of federal dollars stopped. I think a lot of Alaskans don't have an appreciation for how much Federal funding we receive compared to the Federal taxes we pay.

regards (sincerely)

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

Funny, I was just thinking what would happen if a military coup would take place right now. Conservatives have whipped themselves up in a frenzy as of late, with a healthy doze of anger stemming from the recent tensions with Islam and our Chief peppering his speaches with "God this" and "God that". Liberals are nowhere to be found, having associated themselves with "un-patriotic" causes and having suffered quite a few damaging blows from immoral conduct.
Who would win? South is still pretty conservative, I mean, they still take public school children to Christian revival celebrations and go to religious conventions en masse. Army would stand behind a more conservative agenda, and the time is more ripe than ever.

So, any thoughts? Oh, and I hope I have offended both hawks and doves with the above, so as not to make you feel left out

And for me? I'd just head down to South America if sh!t hit the fan

 

[flywithastick]

South is still pretty conservative, I mean, they still take public school children to Christian revival celebrations and go to religious conventions en masse.

So, you ever *really* been out of Michigan - seriously?!

And for me? I'd just head down to South America if sh!t hit the fan

Lots of folks did just that in the 1860's. Still quite a few of anglo decent in some areas there as I understand it.

As for a coup or revolution, I don't believe either would be remotely possible with things the way they are right now. the possibility of a coup would be near nil just becasue the mil is so disciplined. A revolution would require things to be really bad economically, disease/health or from a security standpoint - real Old Testament Wrath of God type bad. we aren;t aywhere nearly that bad off. how'd ya like those Biblical refences?!

the only revolutionary thing I'd like to see is taking all the lawyers and shipping them somewhere very far away...

 

[adam_jorgensen]

Originally posted by WrightAvia
the inbred cops in that state just have GED's for education

Are you saying that anybody who is going for their GED are dumb? I guess that means I'm screwed doesen't it? Somebody told me that he knew a guy who flew 747's and just had a GED. Explain that one to me.

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