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Ah, thank you both. I understand and appreciete the advice.
 
So from a professional standpoint, what is the value in logging sole manipulator (Part 61) PIC time? Wouldnt this just set off more red flags than it would quench?
 
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Crizz said:
So from a professional standpoint, what is the value in logging sole manipulator (Part 61) PIC time? Wouldn't this just set off more red flags than it would quench?
Unless we're dealing with Enron, I can't imagine why doing something properly and according to regulation would raise red flags. It's a question of presentation.

You need to look at the issue from =both= an FAA and employability perspective. They're not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Let's take it out of PIC issues. Move to cross country. For Part 135 qualification purposes, the cross country time may be basic point-to-point cross country: any flight involving a landing at another airport that you didn't bump into by accident, no matter what the distance. So you've got all these hours of flying to the airport with the great restaurant that's 10 NM away. Do you bother to log them?

Obviously, no employer is going to be impressed with this cross country time. But consider this scenario: You are a young CFI working at an FBO that does some night cargo operations. The FBO operator knows you, likes you, and is confident in your piloting skills. One of the regular pilots is going on vacation and you're offered the job of subbing. If all you count is the 50+ NM type of cross country, you're just shy of meeting the overall Part 135 cross country requirements, and you're really far off on the night cross country requirement. If you count point-to-point cross country, you meet them. The employer in this situation doesn't care that the cross country time was to the airport 5 NM away; she only cares that the local FSDO won't come banging on the door with a 135 violation.

Now, I'm not in the aviation industry, so you can take this with a grain of salt, but I can't imagine that aviation is so different than any other form of business. My take is that there's a big difference between having data and presenting it. You log what it is legitimate to log, but you present it in a way that is appropriate for the situation.

Not talking about falsifying or hiding the information. When going for the FedEx interview, there's a big difference between "I've got 1500 hours of cross country time" and "I've logged all of my cross countries to meet Part 135 requirements, but a lot of them were real short trips. I've broken out the ones I think are significant and they total...."

The PIC issue is the same. If you try to present those 100 post private certificate hours that you were trying to learn how to fly various airplanes as "command time" that show your mettle as a pilot, =any= employer would be justified in giving you a sideways look. But just for logging them properly?

Ah! The advantages of electronic logbooks.
 

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