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remember those threads from way back when "shuttle IS republic?" well thats about to be true. parties have met with deatails to come later.
 
I had heard SA's bigwigs went down to Chautauqua on Monday with a possible announcement coming. Haven't heard anything yet.
 
Well it's about bloody time. The people at SA (ALL of them!) worked very hard for a long time with little in return... They deserve something for all their effort.
 
Their replacing the glass with a pitcher of Kool-Aid

They do deserve good things for being crapped on for the last 3 years! Let's hope it happens this time
 
The rumor I heard has nothing to do with Shuttle...

What I was hearing is that Uncle Wex will be putting in a bid for Chicago Express, which at the moment wouldn't even be concerned with Shuttle.
 
By the time a Chico Ex sale could go through, and Republic Holdings could get those financials in order, enough for the public shareholders to accept it, the May 1 deadline for the aircraft to transfer to the other certificate (to satisfy American) will have passed and the compay will lose millions in potential profits.
 
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Nice try to get me down Indy. ;)

I don't see Chico in our future, other than a few Chico mechanics coming within the month who have been let go. The "bravos" they have might be a slight improvement, but it's definately not going to help any growth. Sit tight. :)
 
Could CHQ legally merge with Shuttle for purposes of getting theirs 121 cert. ???

Would this solve their problems getting one for Republic to operate the 170's???
 
The rumor I have heard is that SA will merge with CHQ. The SA cert. will then be used for the 170. Down the line the name will be changed to Republic. This is only a rumor and at this point, I think anything is possible. I do know that there was an emergency ops meeting in Indy yesterday with members of RP, CHQ and SA.

Hold on tight, looks bumpy ahead.
 
I heard a meeting happend while I was flying with some high officials. I know its difficult to get a new certificate from the FAA but "buying" a certificate or merging would make better sense and will save a lot of time. I see that happening! You are correct, will be interesting the next few weeks for CHQ and SA
 
As far as legality is concerned. Yes it is. It would be just like adding the 170 to the CHQ cert. They could add the 170 very easily to the SA cert. With both pilot groups being teamsters, that will help. There will still be issues to work out on both sides IF this is what is planned. We'll see.....
 
Not sure what will happen at SA but from what I under stand REP got there cert. a month ago for 170's. United just extended there contract with SA for six months...good untill 12-2005.Would be nice to get a revenue flight out of FWA for SA because they are still repoing there maintenance flights from Daton every day.
 
SA's contract extension is to the end of '06, not '05, if I am not mistaken.

I guess the question you have to ask is why would RAH buy Shuttle if Republic already has a certificate? If RAH is to absorb Shuttle, which it appears they will, it seems that Republic does NOT have a certificate.

I just hope those people at CHQ realize that their smooth sailing for the last three years has been at least partly at the expense of SA... And don't fight a seniority list integration that is fair and equitable to both parties... DOH, anyone?
 
Just heard from my source at Rep that there will be a merger with SA. Basically SA will get all the RJ's put on there certificate and CHQ will keep the 170's. Right now the plan is only for it to be temporary. Rep will still try and attempt to get there own certificate. But you never know Wexford may change there minds and just keep the RJ's and Saab's on Shuttle, and run CHQ with the 170's.
 
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SA's contract extension is to the end of '06, not '05, if I am not mistaken.

I guess the question you have to ask is why would RAH buy Shuttle if Republic already has a certificate? If RAH is to absorb Shuttle, which it appears they will, it seems that Republic does NOT have a certificate.

I just hope those people at CHQ realize that their smooth sailing for the last three years has been at least partly at the expense of SA... And don't fight a seniority list integration that is fair and equitable to both parties... DOH, anyone?
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Great attitude! :rolleyes:
 
"Great attitude"

Explain yourself, oh great one... The "rolling eyes" was a nice touch, however mysterious it may have been...
 
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Just heard from my source at Rep that there will be a merger with SA. Basically SA will get all the RJ's put on there certificate and CHQ will keep the 170's. Right now the plan is only for it to be temporary. Rep will still try and attempt to get there own certificate. But you never know Wexford may change there minds and just keep the RJ's and Saab's on Shuttle, and run CHQ with the 170's.
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I think it would go the other way around. I can see the Saabs and RJ's on CHQ and 170's on the SA cert. You would have to get new contracts with AA, Delta and so on because they are between them and CHQ Not SA. AA have very specific language stating so. United already has an agreement with SA, so adding the 170's would not be a ig deal. I guess we will find out later..
 
I am guessing SA keeps the Saabs on their certificate and the 170's get added. That is the easiest way of doing things.

I wonder how the seniority lists will merge. I HEARD that CHQ's union just wants to staple the 100 of us to the bottom of their list. That certainly does not seem fair.
 
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I am guessing SA keeps the Saabs on their certificate and the 170's get added. That is the easiest way of doing things.

I wonder how the seniority lists will merge. I HEARD that CHQ's union just wants to staple the 100 of us to the bottom of their list. That certainly does not seem fair.
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He11 no!!! No stapling. The only fair way to handle this would be DOH! Everyone has put a lot of time and effort at SA getting the operation running well.
 
I.P. Freley said:
...I just hope those people at CHQ realize that their smooth sailing for the last three years has been at least partly at the expense of SA... And don't fight a seniority list integration that is fair and equitable to both parties... DOH, anyone?
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Fair and equitable? You have got to be 5hittin' me. Why is it that no one wants to be responsible for the decisions that they make in this business? They instead just want a free ride (or a pain-free ride) to the top.

You SA guys have gotten the short end of the stick recently, but why should I accept any part of that stick now?

The blame and angst should be directed at the CHQ higher-ups. They should be getting crap right now for their scope/AA debacle. And now, am I supposed to be affected by their poor decisions? I think not.

65% of the CHQ seniority list exists below the top half of the SA list. Don't expect us to rollover and die on this one. It's bad enough that an average CBA was shoved down our throats.

Let it begin . . .
 
Why is everyone getting all there panties in a bind? You have to remember this is just a rumor, we at Shuttle hear a new rumor every week, why would this be any diffeent. I will believe all this when Hanley and Durgin tell all of us here at shuttle, until them it is going in one ear and out the other.
 
Don't forget that the SAAB's that the SA pilots fly were transferred from CHQ and gave alot of CHQ guys a long vaction. Some will not forget.
 
I think in the end it would be a good thing for the companies to come in under one roof, even if they are run seperately under RAH. This could end some of the whipsawing or playing on against the other. Its a matter of how we get from here to there that is the tough part.
 

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