JetPilot_Mike
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This is part of a post from our union message board, reproduced without the authors consent! 
But, I think it is very eye-opening. The only error as see in it, in the second paragragh, I think he means U instead of AAA, but I'm not sure.
The scene...
In the beginning (when UAL went bankrupt) the United pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline. The "ALPA approved" concessions agreed to pay and work rules which undercut the regional airlines by as much as 35%. Those concessions resulted in Jet Blue establishing a new low in wages for 100-seat aircraft and undercutting regional pay for 70-seat aircraft by a wide margin. At the same time this was going on, AAA was also in bankruptcy.
To protect the interests of the AAA pilots, the ALPA oligracy approved the abrogation of the contracts and seniority rights for the pilots flying at PSA, PDT, ALG, MSA, TSA, CHQ and former MDW. In doing so, ALPA secured jobs for furloughed AAA pilots for half the Captain positions at all of those carriers, and for PSA the largest RJ order in the history of the U subsidiaries. In the process, ALPA was able to secure the creation of a new wholly owned alter ego.
The Chain reaction:
MESA pilots soon agreed to a substandard contract - supposedly to fight Freedom; undercutting everyone. They now have Comair's flying in part. They accepted J4J and gave their seniority to mainline pilots.
TSA pilots extended their contract for 2 years and accepted J4J. Their company got more flying but it all went to GoJ and none of it to them.
AWAC pilots voted for concessions to keep flying from United. They lost it anyway to MESA and CHQ. Then their company had to "buy" their flying from USAir.
CHQ pilots voted for substandard pay supposedly to stop Republic. They accepted J4J and gave their seniority to mainline pilots. They got major growth in exchange, including much of Comairs logical growth and E-170's.
ACA pilots took concessions to help their company get away from United. The effort failed; they're now out of business.
PSA, PDT and ALG all took major concessions. PSA got more flying, the others little or nothing. Again, they all gave up their seniority to U pilots in J4J.
SKYW pilots soon voted to fly 99-seat airplanes for 50 seat pay to get more flying from bankrupt United. They got it and took more from DAL too. As part of that deal, SKYW mgt promised wage increases in 18 months, but the company lied (it never happened). Nevertheless, SKYW pilots got the growth they voted for.
DAL eventually went bankrupt so the Delta pilots voted multiple times to approve major concessions to save the airline.
Forced into bankruptcy by DAL, the Comair pilots also voted for major concessions to save the airline.
Luckily, ASA missed the DAL bankruptcy due to the SKYW acquisition. Unfortunately, ASA is now being told by its new holding company that its senior equipment is going to be transferred over to SKYW due to labor costs. I believe that will happen.
When NWA went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline.
MSA accepted a mediocre contract but did not accept concessions. NWA has since taken away their airplanes and they are now bankrupt as well
Others:
When Hawaiian went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline.
When Aloha went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline.
Mesa’s Go is now undercutting both of those (Aloha and Hawaiin) contracts by a large margin.
ATA pilots took major concessions and still lost half their company.
When TWA went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline. Nevertheless, the airline had a fire sale to AA and is now out of business
When AA was about to go bankrupt the pilots voted for major pay concessions to save the airline. Massive furloughs relieved somewhat by taking jobs from Eagle pilots
CAL pilots gave up the idea of an industry leading contract. They're doing ok, so far....
But, I think it is very eye-opening. The only error as see in it, in the second paragragh, I think he means U instead of AAA, but I'm not sure.The scene...
In the beginning (when UAL went bankrupt) the United pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline. The "ALPA approved" concessions agreed to pay and work rules which undercut the regional airlines by as much as 35%. Those concessions resulted in Jet Blue establishing a new low in wages for 100-seat aircraft and undercutting regional pay for 70-seat aircraft by a wide margin. At the same time this was going on, AAA was also in bankruptcy.
To protect the interests of the AAA pilots, the ALPA oligracy approved the abrogation of the contracts and seniority rights for the pilots flying at PSA, PDT, ALG, MSA, TSA, CHQ and former MDW. In doing so, ALPA secured jobs for furloughed AAA pilots for half the Captain positions at all of those carriers, and for PSA the largest RJ order in the history of the U subsidiaries. In the process, ALPA was able to secure the creation of a new wholly owned alter ego.
The Chain reaction:
MESA pilots soon agreed to a substandard contract - supposedly to fight Freedom; undercutting everyone. They now have Comair's flying in part. They accepted J4J and gave their seniority to mainline pilots.
TSA pilots extended their contract for 2 years and accepted J4J. Their company got more flying but it all went to GoJ and none of it to them.
AWAC pilots voted for concessions to keep flying from United. They lost it anyway to MESA and CHQ. Then their company had to "buy" their flying from USAir.
CHQ pilots voted for substandard pay supposedly to stop Republic. They accepted J4J and gave their seniority to mainline pilots. They got major growth in exchange, including much of Comairs logical growth and E-170's.
ACA pilots took concessions to help their company get away from United. The effort failed; they're now out of business.
PSA, PDT and ALG all took major concessions. PSA got more flying, the others little or nothing. Again, they all gave up their seniority to U pilots in J4J.
SKYW pilots soon voted to fly 99-seat airplanes for 50 seat pay to get more flying from bankrupt United. They got it and took more from DAL too. As part of that deal, SKYW mgt promised wage increases in 18 months, but the company lied (it never happened). Nevertheless, SKYW pilots got the growth they voted for.
DAL eventually went bankrupt so the Delta pilots voted multiple times to approve major concessions to save the airline.
Forced into bankruptcy by DAL, the Comair pilots also voted for major concessions to save the airline.
Luckily, ASA missed the DAL bankruptcy due to the SKYW acquisition. Unfortunately, ASA is now being told by its new holding company that its senior equipment is going to be transferred over to SKYW due to labor costs. I believe that will happen.
When NWA went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline.
MSA accepted a mediocre contract but did not accept concessions. NWA has since taken away their airplanes and they are now bankrupt as well
Others:
When Hawaiian went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline.
When Aloha went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline.
Mesa’s Go is now undercutting both of those (Aloha and Hawaiin) contracts by a large margin.
ATA pilots took major concessions and still lost half their company.
When TWA went bankrupt, the pilots voted for major concessions to save the airline. Nevertheless, the airline had a fire sale to AA and is now out of business
When AA was about to go bankrupt the pilots voted for major pay concessions to save the airline. Massive furloughs relieved somewhat by taking jobs from Eagle pilots
CAL pilots gave up the idea of an industry leading contract. They're doing ok, so far....
