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Wow, fractrash and bogart disappeared when the question popped up a few days ago.

I'm curious as to how shares benefits stack up to NetJets.
 
NJA bound said:
Wow, fractrash and bogart disappeared

Bogie is still here, however, why should I argue with you anymore? You don't hear a thing and still won't admit how we at CS are taken care of without crying like babies (NJ bellyachers). BTW, still NO union dues comming out of my paycheck. Hey, NJ, are they taken out of yours?
 
Hey Bogie.....what I make after working 1 holiday almost covers all my Union dues for the year.....what do you make for workinig a Holiday?

How much do you have to pay for health insurance? I bet its more than my Union dues.

Do you have to answer that phone if it rings after having 10hrs of duty?

You don't want to be tied to a Union but yet it was our Union that dicateted when and how much you guys got......(you're welcome, by the way).
If you disagree with this point ask your management why you didn't receive those raises sooner.

The reason we don't hear what you say is because what you have to say is plain foolish. Your posts are strickly for entertainment purposes only.


Falcon20-----CS benefits don't stand up to ours. BUt their management could easily match our...if THEY choose.
 
Humphreybogart said:
Bogie is still here, however, why should I argue with you anymore? You don't hear a thing and still won't admit how we at CS are taken care of without crying like babies (NJ bellyachers). BTW, still NO union dues comming out of my paycheck. Hey, NJ, are they taken out of yours?

No point in arguing with this kid like he said. He clearly does not recognize the fact that if it werent for the pilots and union and OUR contract, that he woldnt have gotten his raise either. Bogart has said on a previous thread, "I will never thank an NJA guy for my raise." That says it all guys. (Bogart thought that CS was going to give him that rasie this fall regardless of the outcome of our contract becasue the CS guys deserved it......yah right!!! Dream on).

But I can tell you why perhaps we havent seen any of these tools lately.......becasue a brother of their own has said right here that if it were not for our pilots/union/contract, CS wouldnt have gotten a raise either. That same guy (whom I clearly commend) said that he would have hoped to think that Bogart, trash and rocky dont really work at CS as they are giving their own such a bad name. It got real quiet for these 3 amigos after that was said.

Bogart, now that you have one of your own (provided you really do work at CS) who says the exact opposite of you, what do you have to say for that???????? I just know your going to bag on your own, but lets hear how your going to squirm out of this one.
 
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This is interesting conversation for sure. To an outsider looking in, it sure seems like the unionized pilots fare better. I wonder how hard it would be for the Citationshare pilots to form a union. I would imagine that the parent company, Textron has a union labor force somewhere in its ranks. This could be a good place for citationshare pilots to start looking at.

It would be interesting to hear from someone at citationshare about the questions concerning the timing of the payraise and answers to the other questions about benefits matching the other fractionals. I think that the training on your day off is a big deal, especially if you have to travel to and from the training center which could add another (2) days to the 3-4 day training cycle.

What about the schedule "shift" that I have read about? Where I believe flight crews work a 10 or 11 day shift to switch their schedule on-off weeks. Is this compensated?

Thanks in advance for your responses.
 
FL410Femme said:
This is interesting conversation for sure. To an outsider looking in, it sure seems like the unionized pilots fare better. I wonder how hard it would be for the Citationshare pilots to form a union. I would imagine that the parent company, Textron has a union labor force somewhere in its ranks. This could be a good place for citationshare pilots to start looking at.

It would be interesting to hear from someone at citationshare about the questions concerning the timing of the payraise and answers to the other questions about benefits matching the other fractionals. I think that the training on your day off is a big deal, especially if you have to travel to and from the training center which could add another (2) days to the 3-4 day training cycle.

What about the schedule "shift" that I have read about? Where I believe flight crews work a 10 or 11 day shift to switch their schedule on-off weeks. Is this compensated?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

LaFemme, in a nut shell........the CS pilots here (Bogart, rocky, and trash) do not want a union. They have repeatedly said that they are the "best," their service is "second to none," and that the timing of their pay raise had nothing to do with NJA's pilots/union/contract. They are under the impression that their pay raise was going to happen regardless of the outcome of our contract. However, there is another CS guy here who contradicts these 3 and is thankful and realistic. My CS friends are all great guys as well........

Anyway, you can compare NJA and CS. I have nothing bad to say about CS at all...........just not much good to say about some of the CS characters who are so ungrateful and ignorant that are here and giving their own a bad name.
 
G Rocker,

Thanks for your response. It is NEVER my intention to have a keyboard war. I am simply on a fact finding mission. I have been fortunate in my career not to have done a bunch of job hopping. I use whatever methods that I can to help me find answers to questions.

I am not a fractional pilot and I will be sure to thank you for your efforts if you are a NJ pilot for helping your entire industry get paid more. It may be a benefit to me some day soon.

Back to my original post, it sure would be nice to have answers to some of the simple questions that I posed.

Thanks again.
 
FL410Femme said:
G Rocker,

Thanks for your response. It is NEVER my intention to have a keyboard war. I am simply on a fact finding mission. I have been fortunate in my career not to have done a bunch of job hopping. I use whatever methods that I can to help me find answers to questions.

I am not a fractional pilot and I will be sure to thank you for your efforts if you are a NJ pilot for helping your entire industry get paid more. It may be a benefit to me some day soon.

Back to my original post, it sure would be nice to have answers to some of the simple questions that I posed.

Thanks again.

Your welcome.
 
I don't know...but the overwhelming majority of CS guys I have spoken to since November seems to be very much in favor of a Union.

The "mouths" on this board are the same ones over and over again......they certainly don't represent to average CS line guy.....at least not the ones I've met.

Time will tell.....
 

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