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Someone at google has a sense of humor:

1.) go to google.com
2.) type in "weapons of mass destruction" (don't press Enter!)
3.) press the "I'm feeling lucky" button

or

1.) go to google.com
2.) type in "miserable failure" (don't press Enter!)
3.) press the "I'm feeling lucky" button

Pretty funny.....
 
That is pretty funny. I thought for sure when I typed in "miserable failure" that I would get the ex-bf! :) But I guess they do not update those pages that quickly!!
 
CLCAP said:
Someone at google has a sense of humor:
Google didn't do it, it's Internet pranksters.

BBC World News Story

The trick is possible because Google searches more than just the contents of web pages - it also counts how often a site is linked to, and with what words.

Thus, members of an online community can affect the results of Google searches - called "Google bombing" - by linking their sites to a chosen one.

Weblogger Adam Mathes is credited with inventing the practice in 2001, when he used it to link the phrase "talentless hack" to a friend's website.

The search engine can be manipulated by a fairly small group of users, one report suggested.

Newsday newspaper says as few as 32 web pages with the words "miserable failure" link to the Bush biography.
 
CLCAP said:
Someone at google has a sense of humor:
1.) go to google.com
2.) type in "miserable failure" (don't press Enter!)
3.) press the "I'm feeling lucky" button

Pretty funny.....

Or you could do the search and see who started it in the number 2 position. The google bomb of President Bush's bio was started by Micheal Moore. But when Conservative talking heads, namely Glenn Beck, did the same to him, he didn't think it was so funny.
 
Michael Moore. What an interesting guy.

He complained that American auto manufactures were oursourcing jobs, and was recently found to have outsourced the labor used for his own website!

Ya gotta love these people. If it isn't Morre, it's Kerry, bragging to a UAW gathering about his cars, then claiming he doesn't own an SUV, and later says "his family owns it." Theresa drives an Audi.

Now they are free to drive whatever they like, but I have to laugh every time they are caught in their zippers.

Classic left. No real core values, just hype and manipulation. Do as we say, not as we do.
 
Timebuilder said:
Classic left. No real core values, just hype and manipulation. Do as we say, not as we do.
Now I know I've been away for a while...don't tell me Timebuilder is still holding on to this idea that Republicans and Democrats differ somehow morally. Does anybody really believe that? C'mon now, be honest.
 
Well, typhoon, you have to remember I have been a memeber of both camps, so I can speak accurately on the subject.

You won't find a republican presidential candidate claiming to be pro-life, and then have to explain his way out an appearance at a "abortion rights" rally. You, will, however, find many instances of so-called "envoronmentally responsible" liberals jetting around in private jets, buring thousands of pounds of jet fuel in order to appear at a rally where they decry the internal combustion engine and the output of carbon dioxide by the US.

It's called hypocracy. It's not their personal piece of property, but they do own most of that real estate.
 
Timebuilder said:
Well, typhoon, you have to remember I have been a memeber of both camps...
Yes, I'm aware that some time ago, you traded one sort of lunacy for another.
You won't find a republican presidential candidate claiming to be pro-life, and then have to explain his way out an appearance at a "abortion rights" rally.
No, but you will find Republicans serving divorce papers on hospital beds...or claiming they weren't aware those women were prostitutes. (Bill had Roger, W has Neil.

Sometimes, you even find Republicans lying about tax increases and hotel burglaries.

Honest people do not last long in American politics. Democrats and Republicans can not be trusted. Period.

To paraphrase Dustin Hoffman, all you can do is pick which flavor of B.S. you prefer, and make it your own.
 
Do you see what you just did there?

You shifted from the argument we were having, which revolved around the question of Kerry's hypocracy, and we ended up making vague references to what some individuals have done that is unsavory. Once again, all have sinned, and fall short of the Glory of God, but there is a large home for democrats when it comes to a schism between what they say to crowds, compared to how they live their lives.

I don't fault Kerry for the car he drives, or the Audi his wife drives. Just don't pretend to be the defender of the American worker and the environmental movement in one sentence and then have to backpedal almost instantly because you are caught in a lie. This is terra firma for my old party.
 
Timebuilder said:
This is terra firma for my old party.
Very convenient...since it is for your new party as well.
 
Replubicans and Democrats, it's all the same. One could almost go so far as to say, that all politicians are the same. It is all about getting elected and staying in office, once you get there.

I do not honestly think, that one party is better than the other, although they do differ slightly in agenda. One seems to be big business, the other the individual, either way, we average Joe Taxpayer foots the bill. So either way, it is still the same.

Honest politicians, and yes there probably are a few, do not stick around long, either they do not get re-elected or they do not wish to be. We are now saddled with career politicians, who has as much touch with reality as Saddam did on human rights.

There may be a solution, but I cannot see one.
 
Typhoon1244 said:
Very convenient...since it is for your new party as well.

Weeeel, no one has yet provided an example that deals with what I am talking about. I was hoping you might favor me with an example.

Kerry was caught (the example I am citing) currying favor with the auto workers by declaring the American iron which he owns/drives, including a Suburban. Then, to curry favor with the environmentalists, he denies owning the SUV, and finally, when pressed, has to try and wiggle out of it by saying that his family owns an SUV, not himself. It seems pretty obvious to me that this is hypocritcal backpedaling at its finest. He IS a member of his family is he not?

My position is that this is not seen among republicans, having to lie to curry favor with one group, hoping the other will not notice, or find out by other means. Positions are clear, and are either supported, or argued against. Not both.

No, this kind of hypocracy is terra firma for my old party, typhoon, not for my new one.

I invite you to show me such a person among republicans who changes position with the wind as does Kerry and friends.

We can leave the changing stories about the medals, his position on outsourcing while his wife's company has 57 overseas plants, his positions on fuel usage while he has multiple cars stationed at each of his five mansions (we'll ignore the whole "Audi" aspect) and his voting for and then against the 87 Billion for another time.
 
Dizel8 said:
Replubicans and Democrats, it's all the same. One could almost go so far as to say, that all politicians are the same. It is all about getting elected and staying in office, once you get there.

I do not honestly think, that one party is better than the other, although they do differ slightly in agenda. One seems to be big business, the other the individual, either way, we average Joe Taxpayer foots the bill. So either way, it is still the same.

Honest politicians, and yes there probably are a few, do not stick around long, either they do not get re-elected or they do not wish to be. We are now saddled with career politicians, who has as much touch with reality as Saddam did on human rights.

There may be a solution, but I cannot see one.

Since you see no difference, allow me to explain as best I can.

The democrat party was traditionally a labor based party, and had it's greatest strength through trade unionism and southern segregationism. The trade unionist element has shrunk significantly over the last 40 years, and has been largely supplanted with others outside of the union movement who are similarly oriented to a socialist worker's party mentality. Some segregationists served for many years in the democrat party, but the majority have died off, replaced by those who instead exploit minority interests for their own power.

Capitalism, the basis of American ideals, is seen as bad among democrats, at least in their political persona if not in their investment portfolios, and conversely, an increasingly large array of government services and bureaucracies which are charged with social and monetary enforcement are seen as being good.

The rise of European socialism has been regarded by the democrats as a model for social and economic reform, including the relaxation of traditional social structure and values, which are the underpinnings of an organized society that is based on moral imperatives, an idea which was critical in the minds of the founding fathers.

Democrats firmly believe that they can make life more "fair" for most Americans by creating special entitlements, specific rights groups, and enforced social changes that go well beyond the ideas of the civil rights act. Central to this increased "fairness" is income redistribution. That's why they are against tax cuts. Money is the fuel of their engine of change.

Following the passage of the civil rights act of 1964 by republican legislators, the democrats adopted the socialist idea of government enforced "equality" based on race as a basis for enforcing "fairness," which expanded their power base using entitlements, given in return for consistent re-election to political office. Fear of losing these entitlements became the weapon used to ensure re-election. This exchange created a dependent underclass who became beholden to the democrat party, and developed the phenomena of generational poverty. The leader of the civil rights movement, Dr. King, had been killed and was unable to stop this shift away from "opportunities based on abilities" to "guarantees based on skin color," an idea he abhorred.


The republican party is based on the idea that smaller government is often, although not always, the best idea. While an increase in oversight and regulation is inevitable in an increasingly complex society, the basic idea of wealth creation and retention by individuals, the sanctity of private property, and the basic tenets of the constitution are immutable ideas.

Both respect for innocent life and the ultimate price for the guilty are basic, along with a desire for a strong national defense against all enemies foreign and domestic, and the retention of national sovereignty, are believed to be among the basic beliefs that built America.

These ideas are to be valued and retained, and are all central ideas among republicans with very little disagreement.


Does that help to make the differences more clear?
 
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Not really no, because from my perspective, the middle class, who is the true supporter of the country, little changes. Either we give the money to the "rich" or we give it to the "poor". Other than that, there is no difference. We can either give Exxon taxcuts or we can build inner city schools, at least so it appears. Now, based on those two ideologies, a party may try to influence people.

The smaller goverment mantra is rather funny, I believe under Reagan we saw a slight decreased, but other than that, regardless of who is in office, the goverment continues to grow unabated. I would think we have seen a substantial increase under Bush.
 
Hutcha said:
Not really no, because from my perspective, the middle class, who is the true supporter of the country, little changes. Either we give the money to the "rich" or we give it to the "poor". Other than that, there is no difference. We can either give Exxon taxcuts or we can build inner city schools, at least so it appears. Now, based on those two ideologies, a party may try to influence people.

The smaller goverment mantra is rather funny, I believe under Reagan we saw a slight decreased, but other than that, regardless of who is in office, the goverment continues to grow unabated. I would think we have seen a substantial increase under Bush.

It isn't a choice of giving Exxon tax cuts or building schools.

The activities of Exxon and other energy companies are at the very foundation of both national security and the health of our economy. When we empower our energy suppliess and supplieers, we encourage investment in those technologies as people like you and I purchase stock. It is "investing in our future" in every sense of the word.

The question of inner city city schools is an interesting one. The reeason they are in disrepair is two fold: one part is that many law abiding citizens have been driven out of cities by crimes being committed by the remainder of the city residents, leaving a dwindling tax base to support schools, and two, the schools are being continually damaged by the same elements.

It makes for wonderful superficial rhetoric to compare Exxon tax easements to building a school, but when you closely examine the situation, you need cultural change, not new schools built for billions by inexperienced and special program contractors which will not help children to become productive citizens.

What you need instead is childbearing in a stable marriage relationship, parents who are moral people, who are more interested in raising fine children than the lastest music or fashion.

Building shiny new schools won't accomplish that goal.
 
Actually, when I used Exxon vs Inner city schools, I was intentionally being overly simplistic, since the truth lies somewhere in between.

Yes, your explanation of Dem. vs Rep. is equally simplistic and while the basic tenements are correct, the real truth also lies somewhere in between.

A great example is NAFTA, touted as being both good for business and workers, at least so was the rhetoric. While it may have made business more worldly competetive, it has also fueled growth of factories outside the US, particularily south of the border. That has two distinct disadvantages. One is the fact that former US workers are now unemployed or under employed and two, the loss of taxes from those same workers. Was there a gain to the US, well arguably no, while the companies who moved production south lowered the cost of products, interesting taxation rules have largely kept those profits tax free or largely exempt.

Although the government have woved to fight tax shelters, several large, well known US Corporations continues, for the purpose of taxes, to be based somewhere else or keep income from foreign sources from ever reaching US shores. I need not remind you, that such dealings is illegal for an individual.

I always find it interesting to note, the shift in how taxes to run the infrastructure is derived. If memory serves me correctly, as late as the sixties, it was 70% business and 30% individuals, today those numbers are just about reversed, leading to a decline in spendable income, based per capita.

To that, there was a few articles leading up to tax day, that discussed the myriads of tax laws. Not only were some people not filing because they could not figure it out, but sadly, we also saw an increase in people who did not understand the many laws, including an increase in people believe, that cheating on taxes is fair. For many reasons, I believe in a flat tax. It would make taxation so much easier for us all and it would probably be shown to increase the amount of money to the government, although, it may have the added effect of making the government smaller.

We still see deficit spending from both parties, we are facing a Social Security system meltdown and continued spending abroad. Recently, we were saddled with a National drug system, that appears to do little to lower cost, but lots to added deficit.

So no, I really do not see that big a difference in the two parties, when it really comes down to it. It can be said, that one appeals slightly more to one side than the other, but certainly we can agree, that the majority of americans falls perhaps squarely in the middle, not on all issues, but most. So, what we need, is a party, that does not paint it as black and white, but that understands the nuances of grey. That business must not be stifled, but while encouraged, must also pay proportionally of the gains. That wellfare programs are not capable of unlimited spending.
 
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Simplistic? I call it foundational. The difference between being for the values of America, or being for the values of European socialism is a great gulf, and no, most Americans are not somewhere in the middle, not from what I have seen.

I can agree with a flat tax. Make it a consumption tax. Consume little, pay little. Consume a large volume, and pay accordingly. Always the same percentage. No one gets off, everyone takes part. No complicated laws, no draconian enforcement. Make it 10%, just like my agent gets. Period.

One important idea is that republicans are open and willing to describe their core values anytime, and anywhere. Try getting democrats to admit in public how they feel our sovereignty should be given over to UN guidance, or how much they admire socialism, and decry capitalism. The funny part is that left wing people like Dean or Kerry don't walk the walk, they have huge investments in all of the companies they rail against. Why? Political power. They want it, and they want it back.

To call them disingenuous is to be kind.
 

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