Seniority Forecast.com

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I tried the above site. They let you do a free demo.

It gave me ExpressJet for my demo:
It gave me good information about the most junior person hired, age ranges and percentages currently employed, and the most junior person at each base/aircraft/seat.
It also gave me good information on how many guys would retire each year-unfortunately it's not updated for Age 65, which needs to be fixed.
*Then, it showed me what seniority number I would be every year until retirement if I started this year.
WRONG!!!
This is really messed up. It said I would be LAST on the seniority list every year. So, it assumed that over the next 16 years ExpressJet will not be hiring ANY pilots! And I thought the regionals were growing.

They want to charge $5 for 1 month, or $10 for 3 months. Or, if you give them a seniority list they don't have, it's free.

cliff
LRD

 

[737 Pylt]

They want to charge $5 for 1 month, or $10 for 3 months. Or, if you give them a seniority list they don't have, it's free.

cliff

I would warn anyone thinking of doing this against it. Supplying ANYONE with your airlines seniority list has privacy implications and you may subject yourself to serious criminal penalties.

737

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I don't think it's a problem at all, because they just need the pilots' birth year and hire year-they could care less about names or any other data.

I wouldn't do it, because it doesn't work right.

cliff
LRD

 

[igneousy2]

Hi!

I tried the above site. They let you do a free demo.

It gave me ExpressJet for my demo:
It gave me good information about the most junior person hired, age ranges and percentages currently employed, and the most junior person at each base/aircraft/seat.
It also gave me good information on how many guys would retire each year-unfortunately it's not updated for Age 65, which needs to be fixed.
*Then, it showed me what seniority number I would be every year until retirement if I started this year.
WRONG!!!
This is really messed up. It said I would be LAST on the seniority list every year. So, it assumed that over the next 16 years ExpressJet will not be hiring ANY pilots! And I thought the regionals were growing.

They want to charge $5 for 1 month, or $10 for 3 months. Or, if you give them a seniority list they don't have, it's free.

cliff
LRD

Maybe it is only based on retirements and maybe they don't have any retirements for the next 16 years. Very possible at a regional.

I would imagine that a website like this would not be very useful at a regional as attrition is much higher and a VERY small percentage of pilots actually reach age 60 at a regional. Most leave at around the 5 year mark to greener pastures.

It might prove more useful at a major where the primary means of attrition is retirments.

I am still with everybody else though - I can see a one time check when making a job decision (i.e. CAL or Alaska), however, as far as paying an on-going fee to keep track of your seniority. Even assuming they worked (not likely) What for? It's not like you can do anything about it anyway.

Later

 

[igneousy2]

Hi!

...And I thought the regionals were growing...



cliff
LRD

It depends where you are. Certain ones are. I would have to say that the old-school large regionals (i.e. Express Jet, Eagle) are not doing much, if any growing. They are hiring a lot now but it is because everyone is leaving - not because of growth.

Good luck.

 

[igneousy2]

I would warn anyone thinking of doing this against it. Supplying ANYONE with your airlines seniority list has privacy implications and you may subject yourself to serious criminal penalties.

737

I have heard this before but nobody that has ever told me this has ever been able to tell me what "law" or concept of law you would be violating. Nor have I ever been able to find one. In fact, everything that I have ever read contained in the US-code, case law, or the Model Penal Code related to privacy (<- state laws) seem to contradict your assertion.

So, like I do to everyone else who has said this, please tell me what CRIME you are talking about. I don't want to hear about some wild torts that may have come down the pipe - You said CRIMES I want to hear about CRIMES.

Later

 

[LearLove]

i wouldn't mess around with thoes things, bad ju ju

ask any US Air guy........