Security Issue - Flt. Crews..Please Read

[skootertrash]

There have been several Videos made of COEX flights. More than one flight was done durring the same time on the same route/flight. Everyone is being very quiet about this crap.

Plus the security team that looked at the tapes said it looked exactly like a military intel tape, and even defying the FA and Caps orders were attempts to "test" the crew.

The security people are saying that taking an RJ is the easiest a/c to do now because of the narrow aile. Plus if someone got inside the cockpit when the door was opened by the crew the PAX could not "save the day" before the assailant could lock themselves in.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I think we know our mission...

To get business done safely,quickly and efficiently.

And thanks to the airlines, we will never be out of work.

Whats YOUR mission?

 

[Patriot328]

AHH...ERAU chiks.

I knew there was something I missed about ERAU....

All those cute, witty pilot babes.

Your repsonse was funny, but your basis for it is asinine... Yes, occasionally we do have flights with 4 people on board. I think I had some like that several months ago. Coming back from Ashville, NC to CVG at 8pm at night, usually there were 5-10 people on the plane at most. The flight there, however, was oversold.. I guess we shouldn't have done the flight, eh?

 

[belchfire]

About security stuff...if they know that we know, that's a pretty
good deterant...thanks for the info! I wish that I had someone
watching me and the f/o's back...I guess that's what our bulletproof curtan is for! I try to profile the pax myself, since the law inforcement people can't. BTW, when was the last time a WASP tried to do something to an airliner??? Dumb MF's!!!

My dad still has the snubnosed S&W .38 Special that THE AIRLINE ENCOURAGED HIM TO GET in the '60's when all this hijacking crap
first started! No FBI screening, but they did go through a course
with the firearms. Flight Crewmembers used to get a lot more
respect. I miss the good old days!

Ha...hahaha

 

[JayDub]

How about keeping security related discussions off publicly accessible forums?

Because it seems we can't get this information from anywhere else. Every single time I have FAMs on board, I ask them the latest scoop. 9/10 of the time, I have heard more than them. They don't have a reliable way of relaying the latest intel to themselves, let alone share it with the flight crews.

Please, tell me how I can learn of the bad guy's latest tricks so I don't have to relay on public forums like this. I will gladly seek those sources for ther safety of my passengers, crew, and myself. Until then, this is the best I've got.

Respectfully,

JayDub

 

[BLWME]

I think we know our mission...

To get business done safely,quickly and efficiently.

And thanks to the airlines, we will never be out of work. ..

..We aren't in the business of making money with our aircraft, you guys are.


Since I dont understand your corp. jobs. what do you use those aircraft for?

 

[Airpiraterob]

they use them for the company for the company to make money....
think about that one for a sec.

the faster you can get your Executive board emmbers to their meetings and back the more time they get to spend making money and less time in terminals trveling. its not uncommon for some execs to get at least 4 sensitive meetings done in one day and back in time for billy's baseball game....doing it the airline way? 3 days....less time travelling and more work being done is more money being made.

 

[BLWME]

couldnt agree more. So they are in the business of making money with their airplanes

 

[banned username 2]

couldnt agree more. So they are in the business of making money with their airplanes

What was meant by that comment (since obviously you don't have a clue as to what I meant) is our mission can be successfully completed carrying just ONE passenger. We don't need to fill every seat, not even 1/2 the seats, not even 1/4 of the seats to successfully complete the mission.

We aren't charging per seat, it doesn't matter to us whether it is one pax or twelve pax. What I meant is we aren't making money directly because the person is sitting in the seat. Do the airlines make money if a 747 with ONE passenger onboard who flies to Asia and the same ONE passenger flies back? Thats an aweful lot of empty seats...

 

[Diesel]

On this one flight out of BOS while my company was repoing me on a dojet i was the only pax. This went on for the whole month. I flew it twice a week for the whole month. Me being the only pax. Pretty sweet deal. Plus it was the same crew the whole month so we laughed. Of course when I looked at my ticket price it was in the neighborhood of 800-1500 dollars a ride.

Good thing aca gets fee for departure.

PS. I've never flown more than 7. Our mission is time travel. Get the owners to the destination safely and as fast as possible. Let them have more time on the ground to do the buisness deal, or spend that extra hour with the family.

I used to work for a ceo just him for a long time. He explained it like this. It the time value of money principle from economics. His time was worth x amount an hour. (a ton of money) The airlines cost him a lot of money by sitting around. It was cheaper for him to have his own plane because of the productivity gained. He also rode the concord 3 times a week.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

In many companies, the biggest execs are not even ALLOWED to fly the airlines, even if they wanted to! This has gotten bigger after 9/11 and the Concorde accident.

but then again, why would they want to...

 

[328dude]

Falcon:

Your747 scenario is flawed a bit. They could very well make money if the belly is full of cargo. All airlines that fly international will bump passengers in order to take cargo. Yes, passengers to provide some revenue but not as much as the cargo does. this is probably true on some domestic routes as well.