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Thoughts? Do you agree with Schumer - should Blakely get the ax? If not, what should be done? I agree that she has shown virtually zero leadership but I don't know that a replacement could do anything meaningful in the short-term... As expected the delays at Teterboro are terrible as well - and most of the passengers at TEB probably pay more in taxes than all of the passengers at LGA, JFK and EWR combined! Just wait until the VLJs fill the skies like misquitos in the near future - that will be fun....


Schumer: FAA Chief Should Go
Tuesday July 17, 11:55 am ET
By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer

Schumer: FAA Chief Should Resign Over Airport Delays

WASHINGTON (AP) -- As more travelers find themselves waiting -- and waiting -- in airports this summer, Sen. Charles Schumer said Tuesday that the head of the nation's aviation agency should get the ax.


Federal Aviation Administration chief Marion Blakey came under fire from the senator over seemingly constant backups at New York City's major airports, which cause cascading delays across the country.
"It falls clearly in the lap of the FAA and the FAA administrator," said Schumer, D-N.Y.
The senator faulted Blakey for what he said was a destructive feud with the nation's air traffic controllers. He said the controllers' decades-long poor relationship with the government has gotten even worse under Blakey.

"She has engaged in a counterproductive fight with the air traffic controllers, cut the number of controllers that are needed, and they sometimes lash back," said the senator.
An FAA spokeswoman did not immediately comment.
The problem is particularly acute at the three major airports in the New York City area. Between January and April, 38 percent of all flights at Newark Liberty, John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia airports were either late or canceled, leading to disruptions nationwide.
In some cases, the delays seem to come without any weather- or crowd-related reason. At LaGuardia Airport between January and February, total passenger traffic dropped 3 percent compared to the same period a year ago, but delays still jumped 13 percent.

Schumer argued that in the heavily regulated airline industry, it's up to the government to step in and enforce changes to reduce delays, and Blakey has refused to do so.
"It's getting to the point where it's intolerable," Schumer said.

Earlier this month, the leading U.S. airlines urged the FAA to impose delays on corporate and private jets in New York to help relieve the congestion surrounding the Fourth of July holiday -- though advocates for the private fliers insist they are not contributing to the crowded commercial skies or getting any special treatment from the government.
FAA officials say they are taking a number of steps to reduce delays in the New York area, including redesigning flight routes and adding new software to help respond to bad weather.
The agency also wants Congress to pay for a multibillion-dollar upgrade of the nation's air traffic control system, which still uses analog radar technology from the 1950's. Proponents of the upgrade say new, global positioning satellites could more accurately coordinate traffic and allow aircraft to fly closer together.
 
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The great thing about politicians is they always say things need to be fixed but never have a solution.

How do you fix the delays, especially at LGA?

The only way is to reduce the number of flights. If you do that then the politicians are going to be pissed because flights are being cut to their districts. It is a no win situation.
 
Or you drop a bomb on it and build a new airport, sure it would take awhile but think of all the union votes they would lock up after a project like that.... oh yea they already have all those votes... well drop a bomb on it anyway and build a real airport there, it should atleast have prallel runways.
 
Schumer is an absolute blithering idiot. Not that Im a big fan of Blakey, but blaming her directly for airport delays is like blaming a spoon for Rosie O being a fat tub of turds.
 
Schumer is an absolute blithering idiot. Not that Im a big fan of Blakey, but blaming her directly for airport delays is like blaming a spoon for Rosie O being a fat tub of turds.

You're being too nice about UpChuck. I remember when JB announced they were coming to BUF ol' UpChuck had to get up on the soap box and bash USAir for gouging the public and that JB (and SWA) was helping Western New Yorkers afford air travel. While to a certain degree he was right he was also hacked off those USAir union folks who staunchly supported him. Live for the moment Chuck.
 
I'm all for ditching Marion....tomorrow...who cares about NYC delays...
 
Since when does Blakey control the weather?

I mean, weren't most of these delays due largely to the WX?

Schumer is a dork.....he'll take any position that he thinks will win himself some votes.,...and in the process, he sounds like a back-woods two-bit defense attorney.
 
Schumer is an absolute blithering idiot. Not that Im a big fan of Blakey, but blaming her directly for airport delays is like blaming a spoon for Rosie O being a fat tub of turds.

Cool Rosie t-shirt. Schumer is dumber than Ann Hesche and she is dumber than a box of air. If Schumer was an immigrant, immigrants would kick him out of the US.
 
Two solutions: 1. Two new runways for LGA: 4L/22R and 31R/13L. More Runways for JFK and EWR. 2. No aircraft less than 100 seats allowed in slot restricted airports. Think they'll go for it? <sarcasm>

Need to mention that NY/NJ port authority control/regulate/manage these three airports. I notice he didn't hold them to blame at all.
 
She should be axed for the way they are treating the controllers.

On second thought - don't ax her - let her stay in her crummy pay fed job. Once you fire her she'll end up on an airline management team near YOU - hopefully not near ME - making ten times what she makes now.

How about this solution - LGA is a POS airport and does nothing but create congestion - close it - sell the land. Use the money from the land sale to acquire a bunch land around JFK and make it the mother of all airports - at least as large as DEN.

It seems to me that LGA does more to delay the system then it does to relieve the congestion from JFK.

Anyway - that would be a solution that would help the ATC system but would be unpopular locally - so around we go.

Later
 
I would say that Blakey has been terrible in terms of leadership and decision making. And when she did make a decision, it was usually a knee jerk.

If you've ever heard her speak, she definitely has an "attitude" about her. She talks down to everyone and when questioned gets very defensive. She basically tells people to take it or leave it. Kind of like she did with the age 65 issue. Most of the NPRMs issued under her watch have been that way, and several of them were forced to be changed or even withdrawn by politicians, the AOPA, ALPA, ATA, EAA, or other lobby groups because the full impact of the proposed rule wasn't well thought out when it was proposed.

It's no surprise that the feud with the controllers has gone on. There's also huge job dissatisfaction within the FAA among the rank & file inspectors and employees because of the abusive management that has been promoted and installed under the Blakey administration. It's very similar to what's going on in the airlines, except that government employees lack a lot of the rights non-governmental employees have, so the potential for abuse is higher if you have bad management.

Now for Schumer to blame her and ask for her removal due to the delays in New York is pure political pandering, but I think she should be removed for other reasons... namely a complete lack of leadership and the inability to get all the members of her team to play nice, coupled with a general lack of being in touch with the needs of the industry she is supposed to be regulating.
 
How about an FAA chief that is actually a pilot?
 
Sorry BC, logic and common sense in the FAA are bad. Been there, done that, got the ATC T-shirts from 3 facililties. Why is there delays when the wx is clear and a million?? Not enough bodies to open positions, and too many areas in the airspace that you CAN'T fly - ie noise. It doesn't matter if they can actually hear the planes, if they can see them it is 'noisy' and the rich call schumer and tell him if he wants more money he better keep the planes away from my house.
 
I hate Schumer with a passion, but gotta agree with him on this one. From the dealings with NATCA to Age 65, Blakey has been a disaster.
 
This is quite interesting to me. On the one hand, government is responsible for deregulation and letting anyone do anything, anytime and anywhere. On the other they can't really restrict New York too much or the people trying to make money can't (an airline point of view). I think going forward the FAA and the rest of the yahwho government needs to just say these airports do this, these do that. No 91 at LGA. No seats under 70 at LGA (start somewhere). Incentives to use other airports if you can't build more runways. But at the end of the day, all the FAA can do is manage the mess, not control it.
 
I hate Schumer with a passion, but gotta agree with him on this one. From the dealings with NATCA to Age 65, Blakey has been a disaster.


I hate shumer with a passion and as well as 99% of both houses of congress, and practically everyone in the executive branch. Just thought I'd throw that one out there.
 
Since when does Blakey control the weather?

I mean, weren't most of these delays due largely to the WX?

No, but weather certainly exacerbates the situation. I waited in line over an hour on taxiways at JFK after waiting about 45 minutes at the gate (this is pretty much normal) last Thursday. At one point the controller announce that all departures had been stopped. When queried why, he said "congestion". There was no significant weather anywhere east of the Mississippi yet normal Friday traffic caused the system to come to a grinding halt.

The problem in the Northeast is an airspace system badly in need of reorganization (a la Washington) and more runways. Heck, JFK has four runways but only used two of them until recently (they still close one down to taxi on). It's royally effed up and the FAA either won't or can't do anything about it. I don't know if Blakely can do anything or not given political opposition to any airspace reorganization, but I haven't seen her going to the media with her case. Instead she appears before Congress every few months, says "we're working on it" and goes back to doing whatever it is she does.
 
She should be axed for the way they are treating the controllers.

On second thought - don't ax her - let her stay in her crummy pay fed job. Once you fire her she'll end up on an airline management team near YOU - hopefully not near ME - making ten times what she makes now.

How about this solution - LGA is a POS airport and does nothing but create congestion - close it - sell the land. Use the money from the land sale to acquire a bunch land around JFK and make it the mother of all airports - at least as large as DEN.

It seems to me that LGA does more to delay the system then it does to relieve the congestion from JFK.

Anyway - that would be a solution that would help the ATC system but would be unpopular locally - so around we go.

Later

LGA is closer to Manhattan where most of the businessmen want to go anyway. JFK is a $50 cab ride, and the terrible traffic can lead to a 1 or more hour ride in a smelly cab. Taking a subway or a Skytrain could solve the problem, but gangs on the trains wouldn't have anyone to rob. LaGarbage aint going nowhere. I think limiting the size of planes could help the problem, or just create the same one eventually with larger planes causing gridlock on the taxiways, with only the Port Authority profiting thanks to higher landing fees for larger planes.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Replace Schummer with Rosie? Replace Blakey with Brittaney.
 
Watching Schummer and Blakely go at it is like watching two drunks fight.

I can't remember a time during my lifetime when congress and the executive have been so incompetent, pandering, and venal.

Rosie would fit right in with this congress.
 
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Standard congressional problem solving, instead of concentrating on what needs to be fixed, just fire the person in charge. That'll do it!
 
Blakely resigns, then what?

Unless some form of regulation returns to NYC (ie slots or minimum hull sizes at LGA) nothing is ever going to change substantially.

If memory serves correctly, delays at LGA didn't skyrocket to their current levels until Air21 and Hillary flying there every afternoon in the summer of 2000 campaigning. Why not HPN?

As for the controllers, I'm sorry but we've all taken cuts in this business lately. They are supposed to be civil servants. Just like all of us the average line guy is along for the ride with bad management on one side and an over-militant union on the other.

Schumer should resign and take about 90 more with him. Not sure there are even 10 good ones. That would solve lots of problems not only for aviation but the country as well.
 
LGA is closer to Manhattan where most of the businessmen want to go anyway. JFK is a $50 cab ride, and the terrible traffic can lead to a 1 or more hour ride in a smelly cab. Taking a subway or a Skytrain could solve the problem, but gangs on the trains wouldn't have anyone to rob. LaGarbage aint going nowhere. I think limiting the size of planes could help the problem, or just create the same one eventually with larger planes causing gridlock on the taxiways, with only the Port Authority profiting thanks to higher landing fees for larger planes.


Bye Bye--General Lee

That's the huge myth that everyone seems to have...save time - go to LGA. I think for any flight after 3pm you lose all the time you "saved" from not going to JFK and then some.

JFK on it's worse days are still better than LGA on a typical day.

Later
 

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