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Flyer1015

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As a Flight Operations intern for a 747 cargo airline based on the west coast, I make $8.50 an hour on a 40 hour week. Anything over that is time and a half ($12.75).

All calculations before taxes come out.

Typical week, 45 hours, paid:

40 Hours * $8.50 = $340
5 Hours * $12.75 = $63.75

Total per week: $403.75

Per month (week pay * 4.333333333 weeks) = $1750


Consider a 1st year CRJ F/O at Skywest:

Monthly guarantee/pay:

$19.02 * 75 hours = $1426.5

If you're on reserve, which you will be, assume you don't fly a full month schedule... assume you're credited with 190 hours TAFB.

Per diem, $1.60 * 190 hours = $304

Total pay = 1426.5 + $304 = $1730.5

Conclusion:

You theoretically make MORE money as an airline intern than you do as a First Officer on a CRJ on the west coast...

... does anyone see anything fundamentally wrong with this picture ?
 

RocketDog

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Yes it is wrong, however, it all boils down to simple supply and demand. Sad but true . . .still livin' the dream.
 

k_EAT=ho_ME

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Flyer1015 said:
... does anyone see anything fundamentally wrong with this picture ?

Yeah, they pay airline iterns too much. ;) Well, actually, considering how good you are at math, I'd say you're underemployed.
 

flyguy81

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I'd rather work 75 hours a month than your 180+ for close to the same money. Granted our pay should be much higher, but I didn't take this job to work a 8-5.
 

CLE145CA

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Flyer1015 said:
As a Flight Operations intern for a 747 cargo airline based on the west coast, I make $8.50 an hour on a 40 hour week. Anything over that is time and a half ($12.75).

All calculations before taxes come out.

Typical week, 45 hours, paid:

40 Hours * $8.50 = $340
5 Hours * $12.75 = $63.75

Total per week: $403.75

Per month (week pay * 4.333333333 weeks) = $1750

You get paid to be an intern? Most airlines don't pay their interns so feel lucky now and save it to offset your first year F/O pay.
 

HughBeamont

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Wow. Multiple postings defending pilot pay of <$20K year. No wonder we are all collectively f*cked.
 

GuppyPuppy

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Flyer1015 said:
As a Flight Operations intern for a 747 cargo airline based on the west coast, I make $8.50 an hour on a 40 hour week. Anything over that is time and a half ($12.75).

All calculations before taxes come out.

Typical week, 45 hours, paid:

40 Hours * $8.50 = $340
5 Hours * $12.75 = $63.75

Total per week: $403.75

Per month (week pay * 4.333333333 weeks) = $1750


Consider a 1st year CRJ F/O at Skywest:

Monthly guarantee/pay:

$19.02 * 75 hours = $1426.5

If you're on reserve, which you will be, assume you don't fly a full month schedule... assume you're credited with 190 hours TAFB.

Per diem, $1.60 * 190 hours = $304

Total pay = 1426.5 + $304 = $1730.5

Conclusion:

You theoretically make MORE money as an airline intern than you do as a First Officer on a CRJ on the west coast...

... does anyone see anything fundamentally wrong with this picture ?

Don't forget that you will not be paid one dime for your first two months at SkyWest. Your first year guarantee is $14,265. Very sad.

GP
 

BeachBummer

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flyguy81 said:
I'd rather work 75 hours a month than your 180+ for close to the same money. Granted our pay should be much higher, but I didn't take this job to work a 8-5.

Just remember you only get paid for the time that you fly, NOT the time you are acctually working for your employer, away from home, doing paperwork ect.
 

HoursHore

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flyguy81 said:
I'd rather work 75 hours a month than your 180+ for close to the same money. Granted our pay should be much higher, but I didn't take this job to work a 8-5.

4 Day trip = 88 hours TAFB (est.)

4 x 4days a month = 320+ hours of work a month.

1735/320= $5.60 cents an hour

or if you just use duty

4 day trip at 12 hours of duty a day = 48 hrs

4 x 4 days a month = 192 hours of work a month.

1735/192= $9.00 an hour.

If you work 8-5 in the regionals, its a short day.
 

Brett Hull

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Yea, but he gets to wear that super-cool uniform and tell all the fat girls at the bar he's an airline pilot. That's gotta be worth something money just can't buy.

HughBeamont said:
Wow. Multiple postings defending pilot pay of <$20K year. No wonder we are all collectively f*cked.
This guy's got it right.
 
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