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I do not know why we even continue to have threads like this. All they are is a testimony to the ignorance of issues and our inability to deal with people who do not think like you do.

For every pro union staunch advocate, there are two more that are members because it was required and unless it effects them on a direct basis, they could not care less about holding up the so called bar of the profession.

Jetblue and other companies that want to run businesses that are good for their shareholders and employees along with their venders and customers probably do not care about whether or not some one crossed some line that they do not really agree with in the first place.

And, then to add the pious , "only care about themselves", like
ALPA and the rest do not pretty much only care about themselves and their probems, well that is just too much. And you think their reputation will be hurt.

Get Real

 

[LAXSaabdude]

Re: threads

I do not know why we even continue to have threads like this. All they are is a testimony to the ignorance of issues and our inability to deal with people who do not think like you do.

When I was a student pilot up through my CFI, I had zero understanding of unions and their politics. It wasn't until I saw firsthand the type of abuse that could be leveled at our pilot group, and conversely, the resources that were available through our union in order to combat it, that I was able to fully understand.

Looking at your bio, it appears that you do not work for an airline, so maybe you should get a little experience in the arena before you lay into those of us who know what we are talking about.

LAXSaabdude.

 

[Blue Dude]

I had originally written a few sentences and then said screw it. It wasn't worth going into. It was edited down to "Who cares?" Probably what I should have said was "Why do you care?"

Well?

 

[JayDub]

I am just surprised that an airline with such a good reputation would hire such self centered individuals such as a scab. There is no excuse to cross a picket line and I do not understand why JetBlue would hire such scum. I remember how much crap valujet got for hiring scabs. With so many fine hard working pilots out there, why hire a scab. I know most airlines will not hire them unless your some 121 scum outfit. So why Jetblue?

Interesting comment. You know, JetBlue and Airtran are not the only airlines to have hired scabs. we aren't talking the UAL and CAL situations here. We're talking importing real-live scabs off the street.

Is there any chance you have the scab list on your computer? I chose Adobe myself. If you have, just do a search starting at the beginning of the Eastern Airlines section. Do a search using Delta. It is absolutely amazing how many guys scabbed at Easten and then got jobs at Delta. I was shocked.

In answer to the original question, all that we do have (that I am aware we have any way) were hired when the hiring process was handled by a contract company. Shortly after JetBlue started operations, the process was changed to include pilots in the interview. Curious thing; no more were hired after that.

Respectfully,

JayDub

 

[Skank]

Noone want to have scabs around, but it is quite bogus to mention our one or two token scabs when everyone else is chock full of the little buggers. ALPA seems to be able to tolerate them well enough.

 

[Pura Vida]

“The Scab”
written by: Jack London, (1876-1916)


After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad and the vampire, he had some awful stuff left with which he made a SCAB.

A SCAB is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a waterlogged brain, and a combination backbone made of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts he carries a tumor of rotten principles.

When a SCAB comes down the street men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep hime out. No man has a right to SCAB as there is a pool of water deep enough to drown his body in, or a rope long enough to hang his carcass with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared to a SCAB. For betraying his master he had the character to hang himself. A SCAB hasn't.

Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strike breaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children and his fellow-men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust or corporation.

Esau was a traitor to himself, Judas Iscariot was a traitor to his Lord, Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country.

A STRIKE BREAKER IS A TRAITOR TO HIS GOD, HIS COUNTRY, HIS FAMILY

AND THE WORKING CLASS

 

[mar]

Jack London, the Socialist?

Did you know that Jack London was a card carrying socialist?

Does that change your tune a little bit?

 

[MCDU]

JayDub,

Thanks for the reply. I figured that those got hired at the beginning of operations. Well, we all know how the scabs get treated at UAL. I do not know much about Delta, but I will check it out. Anyway, all the the best to JETBLUE. There are a lot of great guys I know who are flying with you that got hired there in the last 2 years.

cheers,
marty

 

[LAXSaabdude]

Re: Jack London, the Socialist?

Did you know that Jack London was a card carrying socialist?

Does that change your tune a little bit?

Not me. I'm an "issues" kind of guy. I can agree with one person's point of view on one issue, and completely disagree with their view on another issue.

I know, it's kind of rare these days. Usually people align themselves with one ideology or political party and allow themselves to be completely brainwashed by it.

I think scabs suck no matter what, and no matter who says so.

LAXSaabdude.

 

[FoxHunter]

My original airline, and one of my furlough jobs had a number of former EAL PFEs. These gentlemen lost their jobs when FEIA went out on strike at EAL in the early 60s. Captain Eddie gave the PFEs a choice. Come back to work, cross your union's picket line, and you will be placed on the pilot seniority list and the company will pay for your Commercial and Instrument. ALPA members at EAL crossed the FEIA picket line and welcomed the PFEs that crossed as members. Those PFEs that crossed retired as EAL Captains.

In 1974 at another furlough job I flew as a DC8 F/O for a Domican airline. The two line Captains were retired EAL, one happened to be the former EAL MEC Chairman during the FEIA strike. The two FEs were also both former EAL. One crossed, became a pilot, worked in Flight Test at EAL until he turned 60 and retired, the other younger FE had honored the picket line, bounced around from nonsked to nonsked. Ralph, the younger guy said he was still getting requests from FEIA for funds to fight the lockout.

To the best of my knowledge the FEIA strike was never settled.

Was anyone a SCAB??