sample Alaska bidpacks?

[poor2thecore]

Hi everyone, happy Thanksgiving. I was curious if anyone who has an actual bidpack, or sample of one would be willing to send a copy over. I'm curious as to how Alaska creates their lines, and what type, and how much flying one could expect in an average month.

I would appreciate it very much!

 

[poor2thecore]

bump, anybody?

 

[ferlo]

you can expect to be on reserve in SEA for over 5 years. So. it really doesn't matter.

 

[poor2thecore]

I wouldn't want to go to SEA anyway... how about LAX?

 

[Mamma]

Alaska is supposedly hiring 12 a month indefinitely so I don't think you will be on reserve for 5 years. (If that hiring projection pans out that is.) I've heard 4-6 months for a line at LAX.

 

[av8instyle]

Alaska is supposedly hiring 12 a month indefinitely so I don't think you will be on reserve for 5 years. (If that hiring projection pans out that is.) I've heard 4-6 months for a line at LAX.

That's LAX, not SEA. Big difference.

 

[tico]

Alaska is supposedly hiring 12 a month indefinitely so I don't think you will be on reserve for 5 years. (If that hiring projection pans out that is.) I've heard 4-6 months for a line at LAX.

Our hiring projections do not ever reflect what really happens.....There is not any forecast growth in total pilot numbers. So hiring is for replacement only and we are not retiring that many pilots...occasionally in LAX and In ANC people will be hired and spend only six months on reserve. The norm is 2-3 years in LAX and ANC and 5 plus years in SEA. The line quality and value change on a monthly basis so if you were to look at DEC it would not look anything like JAN. Additionally with the transition to a single fleet type, we are going to be very heavy on reserves for the next couple of years because we will retire MD-80's faster than we will receive 737's. Add to that potential productivity improvements and the spectre of age 60 going away and we are prime for some major stagnation in movement. So there you have it.......

 

[sf340flyer]

12 months with the company and a SEA Hardline holder in DEC. At least 15 (hard/open) lines junior to me for SEA 737 in dec.

 

[av8instyle]

12 months with the company and a SEA Hardline holder in DEC. At least 15 (hard/open) lines junior to me for SEA 737 in dec.

Good on ya. Not normal.

 

[ferlo]

12 months with the company and a SEA Hardline holder in DEC. At least 15 (hard/open) lines junior to me for SEA 737 in dec.

That's called "Christmas"...

 

[fly-n-fish]

As those who fly for Alaska know, the Dec bid month is an anomoly. At least a dozen to twenty, or even more, FOs who could have held a decent line (while flying on Christmas) elected to bid for open flying lines or reserve lines to get Christmas off. In addition, there are some FOs who are not bidding for this month as they are LOSA observers. Makes lots of room for less senior pilots to get a line with flying during the holidays. Jan through May will be a different story.

For those here who do not fly for Alaska, there are roughly 250-260 bid lines in SEA for FOs during the winter (in addition to 31 open flying lines in Dec). Next summer that might go up to as high as 280-290 (in addition to 30 to 35 open flying lines). A guy who has been here in SEA roughly a year right now is biddng at right about the 300 position in the FO SEA base. Lots of FOs have to pass up lines in favor of open flying or reserve in order for the #300 position to get a line. We have quite a few all nighter lines and there are many who simply refuse to fly those for QOL reasons. These all nighter lines do tend to go more junior. So, it is possible to hold a line of all nighters intermittently right now in SEA at about the year to two year point. This summer we won't have enough pilots to fill the schedule ... especially if we don't have a contract (and we won't).