Saddam captured in Tikrit

[Noam]

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Originally posted by GogglesPisano
Perhaps we didn't "cap" him because we have values, unlike him and his ilk.
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"Goggles",

What values are you talking about? We supported Saddam for years when his government was fighting a war against Iran. We gave him plenty of arms, which he then used on his own people (The Kurds and the Shi-ite).

We knew, and continued to support him right up to Gulf War I. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead, but as long as he was fighting Iran our government thought Saddam was O.K. There is even video of Saddam shaking hands with Donald Rumsfield years ago.

Fast forward to the present. Bush called Turkey, "one of our best friends in terror". Yet, Turkey has killed 40,000 Kurdish peasants who are resisting recent government oppression in the southeastern part of that country.

While I'm glad Saddam will no longer be a threat to anyone, unfortunately our government supports terrorism if it is in "our" national interest.

This is not an American problem, whether it is France in Algeria, Indonesia in East Timor, or Japan in China...our agenda unfortunately allows us to turn our heads and close our eyes when misery takes place.

There is plenty of evil in the world, but unfortunately if you look close enough our government is sometimes lurking behind it and pushing it along.

 

[kevdog]

Noam,

What a suprise, a pilot who reads more than USA Today.

Let me guess, you must be French, German, or Russian, right?

 

[Noam]

>Noam,
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>What a suprise, a pilot who reads more than USA Today.
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>Let me guess, you must be French, German, or Russian, right?

Ha ha, not quite.

As I said, this isn't purely an American problem. France did horrible, murderous things in Algeria. The German history speaks for itself and I know there has been a lot of criticism with Russian policy in Checnyia (I know, I probably spelled that one wrong).

 

[kevdog]

...Of course the United States has never done anything bad or unethical.

 

[SATCFI]

I just hope he isnt't allowed any public interviews (I know Dan Rather is chomping at the bit). What he might say could excalate the terrorist violence in Iraq.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

...Of course the United States has never done anything bad or unethical.

Certainly our history is not without blemish, but to compare our actions throughout history with the likes of Hussein, Milosovic, Hitler, et al., is absurd.

 

[kevdog]

Hugh,

Who's comparing us to them? But if you want to go there, I really don't think you can compare Hussein or Milosovic to Adolf Hitler or Stalin. And not to sound like a commy, pink-o, treehugging, fag...but do you consider practically annihilating an entire people (native American Indians), Slavery (pre Hitler Era), the pre civil-rights era (post Hitler era), our actions in countries like Vietnam and Laos blemmishes - just to name a few?

Americans are fed propaganda just like everyone else! I think that's what Noam was basically saying.

...and you called me a subject cop.

 

[islandhopper]

I just hope he isnt't allowed any public interviews (I know Dan Rather is chomping at the bit). What he might say could excalate the terrorist violence in Iraq.

I think sadumb is the biggest embarrasment to the arab world in the past hundred years. Well not that they werent embarassed routinely the past 55 years, but this just takes the cake. So much for jihad.

My prediction is Baghdad finally becomes the new Tokyo. Summer vacation kayaking the Euphrates anybody?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

And not to sound like a commy, pink-o, treehugging, fag...

If the shoe fits...