Saddam bribed Chirac-Wash Times/UPI

[46Driver]

If, and that's a big if, GWB was planning this war from the beginning, what was the purpose behind it. And please don't say it was something as petty as revenge - if that was the case, an assassination team would have been much more discreet.

 

[lymanm]

Not such a big "if" at all:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...3/pl_usatoday/oneilliraqplanningcamebefore911

"what was the purpose behind it"

Access to black goo. Also, to save people from a brutal dictator.

 

[46Driver]

Oil (Russia is set to become, if not already, the biggest exporter of crude) and human rights are secondary issues.

Think bigger. Try: http://www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org/news/articles/iraq/newmap.htm

 

[FL000]

Not such a big "if" at all:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...3/pl_usatoday/oneilliraqplanningcamebefore911

"what was the purpose behind it"

Access to black goo. Also, to save people from a brutal dictator.

Paul O'Neill has less credibility than the Post. He was fired for incompetence and is on a vindictive rampage, slighting the President at every turn.

To paraphrase the administration...since when are Treasury Secretaries included in national security and war briefings?

 

[lymanm]

"Paul O'Neill has less credibility than the Post. He was fired for incompetence and is on a vindictive rampage, slighting the President at every turn."

Fair enough. I suppose until the credibility of both O'Neill and the original Post story on the Saddam bribes become such that both sides of the debate cannot argue about the source, there is nothing more out there than rhetoric.

 

[uscpilot]

Re: Re: bush bashing

As a conservative, I am appalled at Bush's spending (especially the entitlement programs) and am looking to vote for somebody else. Maybe Edwards - but there is no way I can vote for Kerry or Dean.

I am almost in the same boat, however I could never bring myself to vote for a Dem. In all likely hood I will probably vote Libertarian.
I thought that with a Republican Congress and President there would be a reduction in the size of government. Please do not give me the argument that Bush is trying to steal the Dems' issues. I voted for him so their agenda would not pass. I cant help but feel violated.
The left wants to claim that the deficit is due to the tax cut. Which is complete BS, the size of the tax cut compared to either the prerecession projected surplus, or the current deficit is tiny. The tax revenues decreased due to the recession that began under Clinton, not due to the tax cut. The real culprit is the spending.
Perhaps a democratic president would be beneficial. I cannot imagine a Republican Congress approving all this spending for some like Edwards or Kerry.
usc

 

[cherokee]

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Access to black goo. Also, to save people from a brutal dictator. [/B][/QUOTE]

You know, this is something I just can't understand, why do liberals all say we were after oil?? What, do we now have a pipeline directly from Iraq to Bush's savings account or something? For the detracters out there, so you realize that we can BUY all the oil we want. Do you reallly think we're over there stealing it. If so, please give me some details. Another little tidbit, do you realize that if we would have lifted sanctions on Iraq, set in place by the United Nations over his rape and pillage of Kuwait and other humanitarian transgressions, he would have been able to sell even more oil on the world market, and guess what?? The price of oil goes down and supply increases, so it would have been in our best interest I guess you could argue but Pres. Bush did not, because it was not the right thing to do. So please, show me the story that Bush and Cheney are now gazlillionaires because of all that Iraqi oil....