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Saddam bribed Chirac-Wash Times/UPI

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This is the last time I'll initiate a political post for a while, but I couldn't resist this one from the "I told you so" files:

Iraqi govt. papers: Saddam bribed Chirac

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Jan. 28 (UPI) -- Documents from Saddam Hussein's oil ministry reveal he used oil to bribe top French officials into opposing the imminent U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The oil ministry papers, described by the independent Baghdad newspaper al-Mada, are apparently authentic and will become the basis of an official investigation by the new Iraqi Governing Council, the Independent reported Wednesday.

"I think the list is true," Naseer Chaderji, a governing council member, said. "I will demand an investigation. These people must be prosecuted."

Such evidence would undermine the French position before the war when President Jacques Chirac sought to couch his opposition to the invasion on a moral high ground.

A senior Bush administration official said Washington was aware of the reports but refused further comment.

French diplomats have dismissed any suggestion their foreign policy was influenced by payments from Saddam, but some European diplomats have long suspected France's steadfast opposition to the war was less moral than monetary.

"Oil runs thicker than blood," is how one former ambassador put his suspicions about the French motives for opposing action against Saddam.

Al-Mada's list cites a total of 46 individuals, companies and organizations inside and outside Iraq as receiving Saddam's oil bribes, including officials in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Sudan, China, Austria and France, as well as the Russian Orthodox Church, the Russian Communist Party, India's Congress Party and the Palestine Liberation Organization.

linky dink
 
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jon210 said:
where does it say that saddam bribed chirac?I must have missed it.

Documents from Saddam Hussein's oil ministry reveal he used oil to bribe top French officials into opposing the imminent U.S.-led invasion of Iraq

"He" would be Sadaam, and "top French officials" would include Chirac.
 
so which is worse, the fact that saddam committed yet one more crime against his people and the world, or the fact that the french fell for it?
 
So now in addition to the war being all about oil, now the leaders of the opposition to it were bought with oil.


I hope this topples Chirac's government. Maybe they will dust off the guillotine for the old boy.

I wonder where Frenchy-Tex will land on this one?
 
can't wait to hear how the Dem's are going to spin this one. On second thought, I CAN wait, and actually don't want to hear it.
 
The silence is deafening. I can only hope that the report is accurate and stays in the front pages. We'll see.
 
Saddam’s Gifts
Document: Saddam Supporters Received Lucrative Oil Contracts

It's a multi-page article from ABC news, so I won't post the whole thing, but here's the link.

Excerpts:

"Today, the U.S.Treasury Department said that any American citizens found to be illegally involved could face prosecution.

"You are looking at a political slush fund that was buying political support for the regime of Saddam Hussein for the last six or seven years," said financial investigator John Fawcett. "


"Investigators say none of the people involved would have actually taken possession of oil, but rather just the right to buy the oil at a discounted price, which could be resold to a legitimate broker or oil company, at an average profit of about 50 cents a barrel. "

The following are the names of some of those who, according to the document, received Iraqi oil contracts (amounts are in millions of barrels of oil):

Russia
The Companies of the Russian Communist Party: 137 million
The Companies of the Liberal Democratic Party: 79.8 million
The Russian Committee for Solidarity with Iraq: 6.5 million and 12.5 million (2 separate contracts)
Head of the Russian Presidential Cabinet: 90 million
The Russian Orthodox Church: 5 million


France
Charles Pasqua, former minister of interior: 12 million
Trafigura (Patrick Maugein), businessman: 25 million
Ibex: 47.2 million
Bernard Merimee, former French ambassador to the United Nations: 3 million
Michel Grimard, founder of the French-Iraqi Export Club: 17.1 million

Syria
Firas Mostafa Tlass, son of Syria's defense minister: 6 million

Turkey
Zeynel Abidin Erdem: more than 27 million
Lotfy Doghan: more than 11 million

Indonesia
Megawati Sukarnoputri: 11 million

Spain
Ali Ballout, Lebanese journalist: 8.8 million

Yugoslavia
The Socialist Party: 22 million
Kostunica's Party: 6 million

Canada
Arthur Millholland, president and CEO of Oilexco: 9.5 million

Italy
Father Benjamin, a French Catholic priest who arranged a meeting between the pope and Tariq Aziz: 4.5 million
Roberto Frimigoni: 24.5 million

United States
Samir Vincent: 7 million
Shakir Alkhalaji: 10.5 million

United Kingdom
George Galloway, member of Parliament: 19 million
Mujaheddin Khalq: 36.5 million

South Africa
Tokyo Saxwale: 4 million

Jordan
Shaker bin Zaid: 6.5 million
The Jordanian Ministry of Energy: 5 million
Fawaz Zureikat: 6 million
Toujan Al Faisal, former member of Parliament: 3 million

Lebanon
The son of President Lahoud: 5.5 million

Egypt
Khaled Abdel Nasser: 16.5 million
Emad Al Galda, businessman and Parliament member: 14 million

Palestinian Territories
The Palestinian Liberation Organization: 4 million
Abu Al Abbas: 11.5 million

Qatar
Hamad bin Ali Al Thany: 14 million

Libya
Prime Minister Shukri Ghanem: 1 million

Chad
Foreign minister of Chad: 3 million

Brazil
The October 8th Movement: 4.5 million

Myanmar (Burma)
The minister of the Forests of Myanmar: 5 million

Ukraine
The Social Democratic Party: 8.5 million
The Communist Party: 6 million
The Socialist Party: 2 million
The FTD oil company: 2 million
 
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This is nothing new, this is a 7 year old old controversy based on the UN's oil-for-food program. Fundamentally, it involved the exchange of oil for humanitaria aid. What FL000 didn't cut and paste was this portion of the article:

"All of the contracts were awarded from late 1997 until the U.S.-led war in March 2003. They were conducted under the aegis of the United Nations' oil-for-food program, which was designed to allow Iraq to sell oil in exchange for humanitarian goods."

The US-led international embargo agaist Iraq manifested itself into dire basic food, healthcare and education shortage in Iraq. The oil for food contracts were a backroom ploy to get around the embargo and allow Iraq to feed its people. Whether or not the parties mentioned participated in the program based on humanitarian motivations or selfish greed remains to be seen.

Considering there are not only french, but also *American* parties named, I hope that it will be found the humanitarian motivation prevailed.
 
I also didn't cut and paste this:

"The document was discovered several weeks ago in the files of the Iraqi Oil Ministry in Baghdad."

While it has been going on for seven years as you pointed out, it has not been known by those not involved. It's only now that we see what stake some of these people had in our going to or not going to war, though many of us suspected a financial connection.

Had this been out in the open during the buildup to war and during UN Res 1441 debates, the outcry would have been enormous.
 
I agree, let the UN debate, but here's a little factoid you should know going in that undoubtedly will affect their vote. What I don't get is why isn't there a hue and cry over this. How will the DEms spin this one??
 
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Because media coverage of this so far has been non-existant, I would say the Dems aren't going to spin it at all - why else bring attention to this? But if it does reach the general public, the outrage would be intense. Not because the connection is factually damaging (the actions of a private citizens/corporations do not represent an entire country/culture), but because of the dramatic headline, which is as far as 99% of people would read.

For example, look at this thread headline! (which, incedentally, is rather misleading)

Hard line liberals would probably point to the VP Cheney affair with Halliburton and the conspiracy theory that Bush was offering cheap oil via the company for pro-war countries long in advance of the war. Much media ado about nothing (Halliburton was cleared of the overcharging charges earlier this month) but all people will remember are the headlines, such as "VP Cheney Implicated in Halliburton Scandal".
 
bush bashing

GWB is a socially conservative, fiscally liberal, lying, cheating bastard that needs to be defeated in November.

There's your "deafening silence" that is characteristic of "liberals" in this country. Take a look at your boy's spending budgets and tell me who's liberal...

Tax cuts do NOT equal a fiscal conservative. At least Reagan TRIED to shrink the federal gov't. GWB hasn't even given it a thought. Keep spending high and taxes low. THAT is how you win elections...and bankrupt a country. Ready to pay the bills, boys???

GWB is not a godsend. Waving a Bible does not make you a good person. Waving a flag does not make you a patriot. "Conservatives," if that's what you call yourselves, should wake up...
 
Re: bush bashing

merikeyegro said:
Tax cuts do NOT equal a fiscal conservative. At least Reagan TRIED to shrink the federal gov't. GWB hasn't even given it a thought. Keep spending high and taxes low. THAT is how you win elections...and bankrupt a country. Ready to pay the bills, boys???

As much as I wish you were wrong, you are not. As a conservative, I am appalled at Bush's spending (especially the entitlement programs) and am looking to vote for somebody else. Maybe Edwards - but there is no way I can vote for Kerry or Dean.

The Democrats can't seem to nominate a decent candidate: Carter was a disaster, Mondale not any better, Dukasis weak, Clinton a disgrace, and Gore a fruitcake. If only Zell Miller would run. One big benefit of a Democrat winning in 2004 is that it would prevent Hillary from running in 2008, also the Republicans will have control of both the Senate and the House so a Democratic President couldn't do too much harm.
 
Guys, you're reading this in the "Washington Times," less reputable than even the USAToday.

Besides, just because France and Russia may have been in cohoots with Saddam, does not make the war any more justifiable. They are only two countries, and I seem to remember most of the world was against us.
 
I seem to remember most of the world was against us.

Your ignorance is showing... I will take you seriously when you bring us the following:

Out of the list of countries that opposed the war, how many were not receiving oil favors from Saddam?
 
Show me a list of countries that were (other than from the Washington Times.)

Personally I don't have time to type out the names of 150 countries.

One man's ignorance is another's objective analysis of media reports from the past 18 months surrounding the debate over this ill-advised war, watching debate after debate, reading op-ed after op-ed (from both sides,) and coming to the conclusion that GWB was planning this litle shindig from his very first day in office.
 

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