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yankee

yankee

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1 - to apply do you need to fill out the online application ONLY or should you fax or snail mail or All the above? I know some airlines just want online!

2 - Do they pay you while in training? How much?

3 - Is MCO still a domicile? Is Ft. Lauderdale a future domocile?

And of course...are they still hiring?

Thanks in advance.
 
I would do both online and fax....but i've heard of people getting called from both.

Pay in training is $125/wk for the first month and then salary. They pay for your hotel.

MCO is still a domicile and FLL opened feb 1. MCO has lots of 2, 3, 4 day trips and FLL is mostly out and backs with a couple of 2 days.

Yes we are still hiring.

20ish E170's still coming this year. Those are firm orders. Lots of options but that doesnt mean anything.
 
watch your choice it may haunt you later

Be careful about going to CHQ! If US Air or United go away be prepared to get fired not furloughed.....especially if you are on the 145 or 140. Bedford is a real horses A$$. But other than that just sign a two year promisary note for 15k. Enjoy Sh#tauqua
 
Hey props,

I'd be careful about going to Skyway, too. Sure, you're not going to get fired, but there are a few out there, I think, over the past three years, who have been hired, furloughed after 3 days, re-hired, furloughed again, re-hired, and yes...you guessed it...furloughed AGAIN?!

Nothing like hearing "Everyone here will be a captain in a year . . . Frontier . . . Delta . . ." - only to have it change to "Whoops, we hired too many people, sorry guys..." Or better yet - before 9/11 in regard to contract negotiations "We are in the best possible place - we're going to get a great contract. The company is making money, Midwest is making money - it'll be great." Almost two years later, after the amendable date "Worst possible position to be in...no leverage...blah blah blah."

It can change on a dime. If I were you, I'd be careful about throwing stones. I'd rather have a few bankrupt-*ss airlines in the "portfolio" concept that has become so popular than one painfully and terribly mis-managed parent company, wouldn't you?

And lord knows anything is better than freezing your nuts off in ESC or MQT.

I don't think much of CHQ's CEO and the things he did following 9/11 - I don't think anyone does. I'm certainly not defending his actions or the man himself - just some food for thought.

Take care,
-brew3
 
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propsare4boats said:
Be careful about going to CHQ! If US Air or United go away be prepared to get fired not furloughed.....especially if you are on the 145 or 140. Bedford is a real horses A$$. But other than that just sign a two year promisary note for 15k. Enjoy Sh#tauqua
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You can tell this guy is a CHQ expert.

When that happened, those people WERE given their jobs back, back pay, and the assurance that it won't ever happen again. (firings)

BTW, supposedly, USAIR was supposed to be gone by the 1st of the year...
Knock wood.

T-Hawk
 
"When that happened, those people WERE given their jobs back, back pay, and the assurance that it won't ever happen again. (firings)"

Actually there was alot more to the post 9/11 events at CHQ than that. Many CHQ guys got screwed and are still screwed today because of it while newhires with less than 6 months were not affected at all.

Also I think that the same situation could happen again concerning Rep/Chq if someone like U were to shutdown. I'm willing to bet WEX would come out and say,

"guys we just can't afford to retrain senior 145 guys in the 170 and furlough junior guys already trained in the 170, we're just gonna have to furlough out of seniority order".

Yes I know what the contract says but we all know contracts are worth more as "TP for your bunghole" than what they are printed for.
 
When CHQ fired out of order was it only people that had been there less than a year i.e. still on probabtion? Or did it extend completely out of order?
 
Traumahawk said:
You can tell this guy is a CHQ expert.

expert no,
all I am saying is what others agree. It was a low down dirty move that screwed me and a lot of other good people and will happen again if it is more a benefit than furloughing! Yes people got thier jobs back.....outta seniority! seeing a trend?
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brew3departure said:
I'd be careful about going to Skyway, too. Sure, you're not going to get fired, but there are a few out there, I think, over the past three years, who have been hired, furloughed after 3 days, re-hired, furloughed again, re-hired, and yes...you guessed it...furloughed AGAIN?!

Nothing like hearing "Everyone here will be a captain in a year . . . Frontier . . . Delta . . ." - only to have it change to "Whoops, we hired too many people, sorry guys..." Or better yet - before 9/11 in regard to contract negotiations "We are in the best possible place - we're going to get a great contract. The company is making money, Midwest is making money - it'll be great." Almost two years later, after the amendable date "Worst possible position to be in...no leverage...blah blah blah."

It can change on a dime. If I were you, I'd be careful about throwing stones. I'd rather have a few bankrupt-*ss airlines in the "portfolio" concept that has become so popular than one painfully and terribly mis-managed parent company, wouldn't you?

And lord knows anything is better than freezing your nuts off in ESC or MQT.

I don't think much of CHQ's CEO and the things he did following 9/11 - I don't think anyone does. I'm certainly not defending his actions or the man himself - just some food for thought.

Take care,
-brew3
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Brews just mad because he saw the pay rates for the carrer killers oppps I mean the 170's and 190's /BOHICA if U tanks brew baby. Miss you in the lounge

Jobeer
 
Jobear, I speak the truth...

Hey man, you missed the point. I'm not mad at all. I'm not angry. Maybe I was a few years ago, but not now.

If you look at past posts on this board, you'll see a few things: First, that I really hope things DO look up and get better, or, continue to get better for SYX. Second, that while many others may be, I'm not a fan of the 170 or larger aircraft at the "regional" level. I've also been accused of "seeing the forest through the trees" but, on that note, I would lay green money on the table that if Delta (since they seem to be the popular choice these days) or another airline went to Skyway and said "We want to fly CRJ700's or any other RJ and we want to do it for this price" - that management, ALPA and everyone else wouldn't bend over backwards to do it.

And I'd be a little careful throwing the pay card out there when Beech F/O's are making shy of $18/hr starting out.

Seriously, though - no malice intended. I'm not mad, or angry, as you suppose. For the last few years, I've been pretty happy. BOHICA? I'm hurt, really I am.

Miss you too mein,
-brew3
 
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"Second, that while many others may be, I'm not a fan of the 170 or larger aircraft at the "regional" level."

Brew3 - it does not matter what level the 170/190 is put on. At U they are at mainline, under mainline cert. (there is no such thing as MDA to the feds). The mainline guys negociated the contract and the pay and work rules are the lowest of the three 170/190 operators (U1, CHQ, JB).
 
what back pay?

Traumahawk said:
You can tell this guy is a CHQ expert.

When that happened, those people WERE given their jobs back, back pay, and the assurance that it won't ever happen again. (firings)

BTW, supposedly, USAIR was supposed to be gone by the 1st of the year...
Knock wood.

T-Hawk
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Ya know,
I used to work there and still have great friends there. We never recieved any back pay. The people fired were rehired as props said OUT OF SENIORITY. That bad deal costs those people money everyday an upgrade class happens and they weren't in it, and every month thier longivity got pushed back.

The truth of the matter is nothing is stopping the almighty Brian Bedford from doing that again if need came to it. Those poor people are on probation and he thinks he can let them go for any reason.

I am also curious how he is gonna handle it if Republic doesn't get thier certificate here soon and American starts to fine CHQ for the 170's.

I just think his fan club is getting bigger by the day. Ask the guys at Mesaba.
 
The only ones paid back pay are the pilots who were fired out of seniority order. It only amounted to $500 per month that they were furloughed/fired.


FLL does indeed serve DL codeshare.
 
Current Upgrade Time

What is the current upgrade time at CHQ on the EMB145 and what is the junior base and the same for the EMB170? Is the EMB170 on the CHQ certificate or the Republic certificate?
 
Right now there is no RP certificate and all airplanes are on CHQs. Upgrade is tough to say. There are rumors that our AA contract is going to go away and the jets that fly them are going to go to shuttle america. This would stop the immediate need for RP.
 
KingAirer said:
Right now there is no RP certificate and all airplanes are on CHQs. Upgrade is tough to say. There are rumors that our AA contract is going to go away and the jets that fly them are going to go to shuttle america. This would stop the immediate need for RP.
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NOPE. The RP cert will be done in June. CHQ WILL be paying a large penalty for having the 170's on the CHQ cert. Somewhere in the nieghborhood of $550,000. Amer. Conn. is going nowhere. If you want to hear it from the man himself, listen to the 4Q webcast for RAH.

BYE BYE
 
CHQ's CEO said even if the RP certificate is completed in June, it will take longer to transfer all of the 170s from CHQ to RP. After June 30, CHQ must pay AA $35,000 a day in penalties. That is about a million dollars a month. I sure would not want to have RJET stock right now.

Also CHQ's CEO said the FAA may not allow the pilots currently qualified on the 170 at CHQ to simply transfer to Republic.

Audio Source: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=131107&p=IROL-EnhancedWebCast&EventId=1019171&WebCastId=419717&StreamId=495786
 
They will not be able to just transfer. All the pilots who fly the 170 now will have go through Idoc, a short systems class and another checkride for RP. Also the $35,000 is what AA will have to pay the APA a day. CHQ and AA have another penalty which I believe could be a total of about 550,000.
 
The American Connection - Shuttle America rumor is dead.

Apparently American was all set to sign the new contract with Shuttle America and backed out at the last second. AA wants out of the 140's apparently. They do not want to go through the growing pains of a new carrier while paying the same rate they were paying CHQ.

This is what I was told by someone that spent some time in SA's HDQ last week.
 
I was one of the 125 from chq and I really felt encouraged by a company that decided to terminate out of order, publish a list on the web page and tell their employees to check the web page for their name on a list. It was like the cuts in H.S. sports. Very professional.
I did receive a personal letter a number of months later.
 
How likely is it for a newhire to get RIC as a base?
 

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