Russian Pilot Supply

[bafanguy]

Russians taking steps to use expats. Only FOs need apply ?

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...e-change-on-foreign-pilot-recruitment-393605/

 

[Dumb Pilot]

My understanding was that they wanted experienced captains...??? Or at least that was what a crew from Aeroflot was telling us about during breakfast in Hong Kong the other day.

 

[bafanguy]

My understanding was that they wanted experienced captains...??? Or at least that was what a crew from Aeroflot was telling us about during breakfast in Hong Kong the other day.

Seems this policy change has been under consideration for a while. Must be a sign of change on the supply side ? I've seen some ads from Russia but IIRC they weren't for air carrier and understandably specified Russian nationals.

I don't recall any factual info about the nuts & bolts of the Russian airline biz.

From ages ago, I think I remember reading an article about Aeroflot pilots driving cabs on days off to make ends meet...maybe from ALPA Magazine ? Don't bet any money on what I remember at this point.

When this policy change goes into effect, the advertised money should be interesting. The expat market seems to be competitive in spots.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

, I think I remember reading an article about Aeroflot pilots driving cabs on days off to make ends meet...maybe from ALPA Magazine ? Don't bet any money on what I remember at this point.

When this policy change goes into effect, the advertised money should be interesting. The expat market seems to be competitive in spots.

Salaries have been on a steady increase in Russia (and for Chinese pilots as well) for the last 8-10 years, along with their new found wealth and the decreased pilot output of the military, combined with a brain drain of Russian pilots leaving for expat jobs, all of a sudden the market has gone from mig pilots a dime a dozen to "who will fly all these airplanes we have ordered?" It's a good thing I guess.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Industry says it needs 1500 flying jobs per year. Local schools graduate 160-200. Some ex-army boys were available as the Air force was shrinking, but now all reserves are gone and traffic still goes up. I have few foreign friends (Dutch, German, Brits) working in Moscow last 15 years, they know more Russian f-words than I do . Mentality is very close so we blend easy into each other's culture.

A Russian pilot posted this comment on another web board, pretty interesting to see how this expatriate contract will be implemented, particularly curious about the T&C'S.......??

 

[bafanguy]

...pretty interesting to see how this expatriate contract will be implemented, particularly curious about the T&C'S.......??

Well, it all seems to be a sign of some changes happening there. Should be fun to watch.

 

[flyboyike]

I can't speak of other Russian carriers, but I'd consider it a great honor to fly for Aeroflot, especially since I speak all the Russian in the world.

 

[bafanguy]

Interesting story. Fake licenses ? Sorta/kinda related to using expats in Russia ?:

"Russia has one of the world's worst air-crash records. Western and Russian air-Industry officials have blamed poor regulation and a shortage of qualified pilots as among the causes for the country's poor air-safety record."


http://online.barrons.com/article/S...41940091634618.html?mod=BOL_article_full_more

OK, that link won't let you see the full article. Try this. You'll get the idea:

"Russia began to experience a severe shortage of flight personnel in recent years as veteran crew retired..."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=249211680

 

[bafanguy]

...........double post...sorry.:blush:

 

[bafanguy]

They're trying:

http://atwonline.com/training/russian-investors-launch-training-facility-boeing

 

[CX880]

Their flight attendants are Hot.

 

[Downwind]

Their flight attendants are Hot.

Isn't that all that really matters?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Their flight attendants are Hot.

Says the the dogboy who will hump a concrete yard ornament, a truly ringing endorsement!

 

[Flying-Corporal]

... the decreased pilot output of the military...

As far as I know, Russia never hired pilots from the military to fly civilian a/c. If you wanted to become an airline pilot (Aeroflot), you had to go to the University of Civil Aviation and get your ratings in the course of 5 years.

Most European carriers are like that as well. I think Lufthansa will be far more interested to consider you for their INITIAL pilot training with Baron time than with F-18.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

As far as I know, Russia never hired pilots from the military to fly civilian a/c. If you wanted to become an airline pilot (Aeroflot), you had to go to the University of Civil Aviation and get your ratings in the course of 5 years.

Most European carriers are like that as well. I think Lufthansa will be far more interested to consider you for their INITIAL pilot training with Baron time than with F-18.

Just passing along what I have discussed over a few cold ones with Aeroflot pilots......!

 

[flyboyike]

As far as I know, Russia never hired pilots from the military to fly civilian a/c. If you wanted to become an airline pilot (Aeroflot), you had to go to the University of Civil Aviation and get your ratings in the course of 5 years.

You're correct in the context of the Soviet Union, but since the downfall thereof things have changed somewhat. Aeroflot's career page specifically states that military pilots are welcome to apply, however the same requirements apply to them as to civilians.