Rumor or Not? ASA 65 ERJ's

[n6604f]

Heard this through fairly reliable source from Flight safety that they are in the final process of getting 2 ERJ 145 Sims in ATL.....Also heard ASA won the deal from CO for COEX flying. Believe it or Not?

Let's hear it!

 

[WSurf]

Not!!!

 

[cobalt]

here we go again.

 

[joe_pilot]

...Yawn...grumble...

 

[Crash Pad]

If you really believe that rumor you would have already bought as much SKYW as you could get your hands on. Until someone jumps on this board and says... I heard from a source good enough that I put 100K on it... I don't believe it.

That being said. Yep it's a done deal get your bids in now. Sell your place and but a new one in Newark.

 

[difete]

I have heard the rumor too, but for now it is still a rumor.

 

[ohplease!]

If you really believe that rumor you would have already bought as much SKYW as you could get your hands on. Until someone jumps on this board and says... I heard from a source good enough that I put 100K on it... I don't believe it.

That being said. Yep it's a done deal get your bids in now. Sell your place and but a new one in Newark.

I don't have 100k sitting around, hell I don't have 100k monopoly money. But, if I did, I would put it on it. It's a done deal. ASA may not get all 65 planes worth of flying but, SKYW will and it may be split between ASA and SkyW.

Just an opinion. Chose to agree or not. Just don't get mad in a few months when I say: told ya' so.

 

[Crash Pad]

In a few months you should be on a beach never to be heard from again... Remortgage the house, sell everything you own and put it on SKYW... Any of you market monkeys want to guess how much of a jump the SKYW would get off a 65 plane announcement?

 

[Sinca3]

People!!!! Why would Skywest bring another aircraft type on the property? Where would they get these a/c?
If Continental or any airline, for that matter, wants feed they don't care so much if it is a erj or crj 50 seater. Just that it is a 50 seater and the company providing the feed is doing it at the price they want to pay!!
If ASA were to bring another a/c type onto the property it would be b/c the aircraft they currently use isn't able to do a certain type of flying.
I personally don't believe this rumor at all. If ASA were to get the flying though I would bet it will be using CRJ's.

 

[ohplease!]

People!!!! Why would Skywest bring another aircraft type on the property? Where would they get these a/c?
If Continental or any airline, for that matter, wants feed they don't care so much if it is a erj or crj 50 seater. Just that it is a 50 seater and the company providing the feed is doing it at the price they want to pay!!
If ASA were to bring another a/c type onto the property it would be b/c the aircraft they currently use isn't able to do a certain type of flying.
I personally don't believe this rumor at all. If ASA were to get the flying though I would bet it will be using CRJ's.

no more CRJs are being made. I don't know how many Indy had left. CAL will have the ERJs being flown by express. As I understand it, express has the option to put them to use somewhere else or turn them over to CAL. I don't know if that is correct or not but, I do know there isn't anywhere outside of CALs system that can use 69 ERJs. So, I don't see how express is going to be able to use them. So, SkyW will staff the planes for CAL because express has refused to.

 

[atlcrashpad]

I heard the rumor that MESA was getting ALL of the airplanes and will fly them for 3/4 pay. Reliable source: overheard two rampers at the urinal joking about it......

 

[cobalt]

People!!!! Why would Skywest bring another aircraft type on the property? Where would they get these a/c?
If Continental or any airline, for that matter, wants feed they don't care so much if it is a erj or crj 50 seater. Just that it is a 50 seater and the company providing the feed is doing it at the price they want to pay!!
If ASA were to bring another a/c type onto the property it would be b/c the aircraft they currently use isn't able to do a certain type of flying.
I personally don't believe this rumor at all. If ASA were to get the flying though I would bet it will be using CRJ's.

not flamebait... i don't know enough about the CRJ.... can it do what the XR's do... blocked to 4 hrs, IAH to BOI and carry all 50 people? or IAH to BFL, EWR to OKC, ect. 44 of the planes in question are XR's.

 

[800Dog]

I heard the rumor that MESA was getting ALL of the airplanes and will fly them for 3/4 pay. Reliable source: overheard two rampers at the urinal joking about it......

I heard a rumor that ohplease! was a tri-lamb at Auburn and and his only date while there was with an omega moo!

 

[ohplease!]

I heard a rumor that ohplease! was a tri-lamb at Auburn and and his only date while there was with an omega moo!

wow, you really like that line don't you? better watch another movie nerd.

 

[Standby 1]

no more CRJs are being made. I don't know how many Indy had left. CAL will have the ERJs being flown by express. As I understand it, express has the option to put them to use somewhere else or turn them over to CAL. I don't know if that is correct or not but, I do know there isn't anywhere outside of CALs system that can use 69 ERJs. So, I don't see how express is going to be able to use them. So, SkyW will staff the planes for CAL because express has refused to.

While it should be expected on this board, this post is a premium example of someone posting on a subject they know nothing about. You don't know if it is correct or not if Express has the option of using the airplanes?? Perhaps you should find that out for certain before you claim those a/c are going to Skywest, eh? Oh, but you do know for certain there's no where else those a/c could be used. Specifically tell us how you know that. Specifically tell us how you know Express isn't keeping those aircraft. Man, you must really have the inside scoop that even Express management and the Express MEC isn't privvy to.....how cool are you?

 

[sXeflyer]

no more CRJs are being made. I don't know how many Indy had left. CAL will have the ERJs being flown by express. As I understand it, express has the option to put them to use somewhere else or turn them over to CAL. I don't know if that is correct or not but, I do know there isn't anywhere outside of CALs system that can use 69 ERJs. So, I don't see how express is going to be able to use them. So, SkyW will staff the planes for CAL because express has refused to.

Read in Flying magazine on the plane, er..in the crew lounge, that bombardier is starting to make new 200's. This is starting in April. Flaimbait--commence.

 

[ohplease!]

While it should be expected on this board, this post is a premium example of someone posting on a subject they know nothing about. You don't know if it is correct or not if Express has the option of using the airplanes?? Perhaps you should find that out for certain before you claim those a/c are going to Skywest, eh? Oh, but you do know for certain there's no where else those a/c could be used. Specifically tell us how you know that. Specifically tell us how you know Express isn't keeping those aircraft. Man, you must really have the inside scoop that even Express management and the Express MEC isn't privvy to.....how cool are you?

what other major is expanding their feed enough to need 69 planes?

An express guy on my JS a few weeks ago told me they had the option to keep them. I have no way to know different. I didn't say they wouldn't keep them. Just that I don't think they will. I never claimed to have the answers. Just an opinion. Same as you.

 

[ohplease!]

Read in Flying magazine on the plane, er..in the crew lounge, that bombardier is starting to make new 200's. This is starting in April. Flaimbait--commence.

first I've heard of that. I don't see why they would. I would think new growth will be atleast 70 seats.

 

[Superpilot92]

Its shame that people act like they are excited that xjet might lose the planes and fellow pilots might lose jobs. Most people at XJET feal confident about what the future holds. We will know for sure in the near future. But for those that are getting woodys about xjet possibly losing airframes and jobs you are just a bunch of tools.

 

[kj6991]

for what it's worth i spoke with hiring personel last week and she said SkyWest forecast to hire 400 pilots the rest of this year. with only a few more airplanes from the Delta side coming in to SkyWest maybe management knows something and they aren't telling us with respect to more airplanes coming in. 400 new hires with only a few planes on the schedule coming in doesn't seem to add up.

 

[Superpilot92]

for what it's worth i spoke with hiring personel last week and she said SkyWest forecast to hire 400 pilots the rest of this year. with only a few more airplanes from the Delta side coming in to SkyWest maybe management knows something and they aren't telling us with respect to more airplanes coming in. 400 new hires with only a few planes on the schedule coming in doesn't seem to add up.

for what its worth i talked to our Director of Flight ops and he said 250 to 260 upgrades this year and continued hiring into the summer. so you are right something doesnt add up.

 

[Standby 1]

what other major is expanding their feed enough to need 69 planes?

An express guy on my JS a few weeks ago told me they had the option to keep them. I have no way to know different. I didn't say they wouldn't keep them. Just that I don't think they will. I never claimed to have the answers. Just an opinion. Same as you.

What makes you think Express would use the airplanes to feed another major? For heaven's sake, they could use the planes in a variety of other capacities (XJT Holdings has it's hands in quite a few cookie jars) or could park them in the desert for all any of us know.

Look, you're certainly entitled to an opinion, however anyone who has been in this industry for any length of time knows that none of us know sh$t until the official announcement is made at the end of Sept.

Quote from you:
"It's a done deal."

Doesn't sound like an opinion to me, sounds like you presenting stuff as fact (stuff that you don't know to be fact). Not a big deal, just irritating is all.

 

[viper548]

The version of the rumor I heard has CO owning the ERJs and SkyWest (or ASA) providing the crews and MX.

 

[BCpilot81]

That would be cool

All that I can say, that if this were true, the waiting in the pool would be worth it. But that seems like a stretch with the ERJ's let alone with Skywest being the proud new papa to ASA. But I do know that Skywest is trying to push ASA into other markets (being possibly Coex). But one thing that I have learned in this industry, don't believe it until you are sitting in the da*n thing.

 

[Superpilot92]

The version of the rumor I heard has CO owning the ERJs and SkyWest (or ASA) providing the crews and MX.

well considering we own the leases on the planes we have the right to keep them or park em. so until you hear the official announcement from XJET your version holds no weight.

 

[nimtz]

no more CRJs are being made. I don't know how many Indy had left. CAL will have the ERJs being flown by express. As I understand it, express has the option to put them to use somewhere else or turn them over to CAL. I don't know if that is correct or not but, I do know there isn't anywhere outside of CALs system that can use 69 ERJs. So, I don't see how express is going to be able to use them. So, SkyW will staff the planes for CAL because express has refused to.

I'd be suprised to see the 69 airplanes get turned over by XJT to the newest CAL little b!tch. I've even heard that the XJT management would just as soon park them and pay the leases rather then give them up. Of course it came from the training department so take that for what it's worth. It makes zero sense for Skywest to start flying ERJ at this point in time in a limited quantity. Whoever wins this thing isn't winning the keys to Camelot like some suggest. CAL is low balling the bejesus out of everyone coming to play.

Probably more then enough CRJ's out in the world to cover the 69. Either way I'm sure both the CRJ and ERJ will look good in the desert in the next 5 to ten years. Exactly why many of us want out of the regional game.

 

[ohplease!]

What makes you think Express would use the airplanes to feed another major? For heaven's sake, they could use the planes in a variety of other capacities (XJT Holdings has it's hands in quite a few cookie jars) or could park them in the desert for all any of us know.

Look, you're certainly entitled to an opinion, however anyone who has been in this industry for any length of time knows that none of us know sh$t until the official announcement is made at the end of Sept.

Quote from you:
"It's a done deal."

Doesn't sound like an opinion to me, sounds like you presenting stuff as fact (stuff that you don't know to be fact). Not a big deal, just irritating is all.

ok. Its my opinion: its a done deal. sorry to irritate you.

Personally I hope it isn't true for the sake of express guy's. I certainly would not want to be in their seats right now. You are right, if express has control of those planes, they can in fact do many things with them, any thing they like. Either way, its not something any of us has ANY control over.

You're also right in that nobody can count on it until the airframes are on the ramp. Thats why I havn't made any moves to sell my house and move to Houston to fly an ERJ for CAL. Not that I would anyway. I'm just fine here in ATL near my family.

 

[nimtz]

All that I can say, that if this were true, the waiting in the pool would be worth it. But that seems like a stretch with the ERJ's let alone with Skywest being the proud new papa to ASA. But I do know that Skywest is trying to push ASA into other markets (being possibly Coex). But one thing that I have learned in this industry, don't believe it until you are sitting in the da*n thing.

You've also learned to get gitty at the thought of flying a jet even when you step on another guy's back as he loses his job. That's an advanced lesson that sometimes requires a picket line. Cool dude!

 

[ohplease!]

well considering we own the leases on the planes we have the right to keep them or park em. so until you hear the official announcement from XJET your version holds no weight.

isn't that pretty much what I said the express guy on my jumpseat had told me?

 

[ohplease!]

I'd be suprised to see the 69 airplanes get turned over by XJT to the newest CAL little b!tch. I've even heard that the XJT management would just as soon park them and pay the leases rather then give them up. Of course it came from the training department so take that for what it's worth. It makes zero sense for Skywest to start flying ERJ at this point in time in a limited quantity. Whoever wins this thing isn't winning the keys to Camelot like some suggest. CAL is low balling the bejesus out of everyone coming to play.

Probably more then enough CRJ's out in the world to cover the 69. Either way I'm sure both the CRJ and ERJ will look good in the desert in the next 5 to ten years. Exactly why many of us want out of the regional game.

you may well be correct on all counts