JetPilot500
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FlyDeltasJets said:Wait a minute. EAL and PAA can't be gone. Their pilots gave tons of concessions. After all, that's all it takes, isn't it? That's why TWA is currently the industry powerhouse.
furloboy said:
I know what you're getting at but this sort of statement is tiresome. Why 100K? Why not 80K? Some folks will say the same thing about 50K. If I wanted, I could move to Nebraska or some other of the more affordable states (not necessarily a bad thing) and live on my miliary retirement and still pay for food and electricity. But I want more.
I want more to do more and to give more. If my current income was cut to 100K I wouldn't be able to do what I do--for myself or for others. I get tired of reading blanket statements from folks that in effect make 100K look like the end-all in terms of income.
It ain't. Still you're right--folks should live within their means. And for some folks that is 20K. For others it is much more.
How easy do you really think it is taking a pay cut from $150,000 a year down to $100,000 if you have a mortgage to pay, kids in college, car payments, etc. Would you risk personal bankrupcty to save your job?
furloboy said:What wears me out is the guy with half a mouth of teeth and an eighth grade education who thinks that anyone who makes $100K ought not to want for more if he can get (earn) it (regardless of the job). I can and I do.
Wow, how many pilots are needed to maintain ALPA National's power structure? ALPA National might adopt concessions quicker than you think just to preserve ALPA National's jobs. Do you think the Eagle, ASA, Comair and US Air Express pilots would elect Woerth at this year's Board of Director's meeting?Rvrrat said:Now, once more, how ALPA ties into this mess.
I assert that ALPA will influence against concessions.
For the sake of argument, let's say UAL is not granted the concessions it seeks, can't pay the bills in November and subsequently goes TU. Result? 8k+ pilots for hire out on the market, ALPA membership reduced by same amount.
Thus begins the implosion of ALPA. I can not see how the organization will maintain its long term bargaining status after the loss of large amounts of membership from UAL and other actions the union is facing.