Reverse Hi-Speed turnoff

[dana172]

After landing, is it ok to use a reverse hi-speed turnoff? This assumes that I am not making a 180 on the runway to exit at this turnoff.

 

[deez_nutz2000]

NO!!!!!! It will have the same effect as it would if in your rental car trying to exit the "enter" ramp. Spikes will blow out your tires, and then you will have a lot of explaining to do.


Seriously, I dont hink there is any reg against it, but up to ATC more than anything.

 

[EagleRJ]

Generally, it's good to quickly get the OK from the tower before taking a reverse, since it takes longer than a forward high speed, or even a 90 degree turnoff. If there's someone on short final behind you and the controller has everyone lined up with minimum seperation, you might cause a problem.

 

[squirldog]

I would not use a reverse highspeed at any airport without the towers ok. I have seen a few people get a talking to at KIAD for using a reverse highspeed. I think this falls in line with not doing anything that draws attention to yourself.

 

[GravityHater]

How many times do we have to tell people, the Reverse High Speed is only for those aircraft equipped with Thrust Reversers!!

 

[EagleRJ]

How many times do we have to tell people, the Reverse High Speed is only for those aircraft equipped with Thrust Reversers!!

LOL! I wonder what the tower would say if you actually did that? Probably nothing- their jaw would be on the floor and they'd be laughing too hard!

 

[cl-65link]

After landing, is it ok to use a reverse hi-speed turnoff? This assumes that I am not making a 180 on the runway to exit at this turnoff.

Otherwise known as the "Polish hi-speed".

 

[mattpilot]

When you see a yellow taxi line going from the runway to the exit taxiway, its okay to follow. If there is none, you should ask for permission.

 

[minitour]

LOL! I wonder what the tower would say if you actually did that? Probably nothing- their jaw would be on the floor and they'd be laughing too hard!

LOL
thanks for the visual on that! I needed it!

As a followup:

How fast can you get it going with thrust reversers?

-mini

 

[stingray]

Do not take the reverse Hi-speed without permission, our company has gotten a slight ass chewing for doing that by IAD tower, ask the tower if you think you might whant to use the reverse, if they say yes great use it, if they say no or if you can't get ahold of them in time just continue on to the next spot to get off.

 

[Vector4fun]

I can't speak about IAD specifically, but at several places I've worked, the airport management had a policy about "Locked brake turns" or similar by larger aircraft. They tear up the pavement. And management can get rather testy about it. That said, there's no reason a King Air, for example, can't make a reverse hi-speed on a typical runway with steering alone. All the policies I've seen applied only to aircraft RJ size and larger.


btw, I've seen a C-130 do a 180 on runway and tear the asphalt up pretty good. I've also seen a Talon in burner lift about a 10'x10' chunk of asphalt and hurl it backwards some distance. Airports get testy about having to re-pave their runways every 6 months....

 

[User546]

...the airport management had a policy about "Locked brake turns" or similar by larger aircraft.

What is it about "locked brake turns" that causes damages? Maybe I'm not getting the full understanding or picture here.

 

[EagleRJ]

As a followup:

How fast can you get it going with thrust reversers?

-mini

The question is, how fast would you want to get it going in reverse, considering you can't see behind you! When aircraft do powerbacks, they also have to stop the rearward movement with forward thrust, not brakes. That's because the nosewheel is so lightly loaded compared to the mains, brakes would cause the plane to tip back on its tail.
Most operators have rules concerning backing up and when it can be used, and some prohibit it altogether. For my airplane, it is "for emergency use only".

Several years back, one of our Saabs took a wrong turn and wound up facing a dead end on the taxiway. Not wanting to wait for a tug, they used reverse to make a three-point u-turn like a car! Everyone in the tower cab was watching in amazement.

 

[Jump Pilot]

We call them "Aggie Hi-speeds" in Texas.

 

[EagleRJ]

What is it about "locked brake turns" that causes damages? Maybe I'm not getting the full understanding or picture here.

A locked brake turn is when the tire is turning in place instead of rolling. When there's as much weight on the contact patch as there is with an aircraft, twisting it against the ground like that can tear off a surface layer of asphalt. Usually concrete is more resistant to that.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Generally, it's not a problem taking a reverse hi-speed in the U.S.. Some airports may have heartburn over it, so if it's a new airport for you, ask. LAX doesn't give a rat's a$$, at least as far as smaller (737's on down) aircraft go. Us (SKYW) and SWA do it all the time off of 24R. It gets SWA to their gates faster, and keeps us from having to go the 'bridge route' and adding 5 or 10 minutes to our taxi time.

Caveat: Don't do it in Canada unless you like getting chewed out on the radio.

AF

 

[minitour]

The question is, how fast would you want to get it going in reverse, considering you can't see behind you!...

No, the question was "How fast can you get it going with thrust reversers?"

Purely a curiosity question. I don't fly anything with reversers, don't have any information on how fast they can get you, and I'm assuming once I do get to fly something with that equipment, the company will have specific information saying how fast I'm allowed to go. I realize all of the dangers with going to fast (tipping back, running into something, etc.)...

but out of curiosity....

How fast can you get it going with thrust reversers?

-mini

 

[User546]

For my airplane, it is "for emergency use only"

For us, "Emergency Use Only" equals "Backing Into Parking Spot After Lineman Gone Home For Night"