Reserve callout

[illeagle]

How long is the callout for reserves? From the time you get the call, how long until you have to be at the plane?

 

[CitationLover]

120 minutes at Eagle
90 at Mesa

 

[Palerider957]

2 hours at ASA. The question is when does that two hours start? If you are in the crapper and they call, you call them back 10 mins later, they'll tell you it started when they first called you. The union argues that we are NOT slaves to the phone (i.e.in the bathroom, shower, on another call, etc.) so the two hours begins when we actually make contact with a black-hearted scheduler.

Also, it's two hours to the employee parking lot, where you swipe your sida badge. You can't control the lazy #%&@#% bus drivers, this grievance has been fought and won.

If you come to ASA count on many, many short calls for no reason. They'll have known about a trip for HOURS, but still decided to short call you. The other reason is that they are totally disorganized and are trying to cover their a$$ by making a frantic call to you--threatening you with "the plane leaves in two hours."

No sir. I'll be there in two hours (to the employee lot) and I'll take my FULL ONE HOUR DUTY IN TIME, and go anywhere you want in three hours.

I had a scheduler tell me that "nap reserves have to come in and sit ready reserve for their on call period." I just laughed at her, and told her she was outright lying on a recorded line.

Sorry for the rant. Anyone coming to ASA needs to know the BS games we have to play.

 

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Pale :

The two hours starts at "notification," defined as a conversation, not a message. However, if you are not available by phone during your reserve period ( in the crapper ) you can get a trip failure. Usually the pilot would rather eat the 10 minutes than the occurrence / trip failure.

When short called the company loves to have you still leave on time. I have had them give me two hours to get to the airport, then 7 minutes until departure. Yes, I know we have won a grievance on this.

What I would do is not duty in and go straight to the airplane, telling my crew that I was not really there, although they might see me doing my job, I had not dutied in. In the mean time operations would PANIC since a crew member was not dutied in for the flight. At 10 seconds to duty in I'd call ops on the radio, to let them know I was on board

 

[skid]

At Horizon (QX)

90 minutes in Portland (needs to be longer)
120 minutes in Seattle and Denver

 

[RJP]

You guys are breaking my heart. Island Air is only 60 minutes.

 

[illeagle]

How about COMAIR's callout? I'm interested in working there and would most likely be JFK based. Traffic could play a major factor in that decision while on reserve. Any guess how long reserve at JFK would be for a new hire? Thanks.

 

[Cosmo1999]

Most places ive heard give 90 minutes in smaller cities and 120minutes in major metro areas IE LAX, ORD, NYC, etc.

 

[last call]

Skyway: 10 min to call the schedular back and then 90 to check in.

 

[Palerider957]

Pale :

The two hours starts at "notification," defined as a conversation, not a message. However, if you are not available by phone during your reserve period ( in the crapper ) you can get a trip failure. Usually the pilot would rather eat the 10 minutes than the occurrence / trip failure.

When short called the company loves to have you still leave on time. I have had them give me two hours to get to the airport, then 7 minutes until departure. Yes, I know we have won a grievance on this.

What I would do is not duty in and go straight to the airplane, telling my crew that I was not really there, although they might see me doing my job, I had not dutied in. In the mean time operations would PANIC since a crew member was not dutied in for the flight. At 10 seconds to duty in I'd call ops on the radio, to let them know I was on board

Yes, "notification" is still an issue. I guess it depends if you want to play hardball or not. If you haven't had an occurrence in a while--let them give you a trip failure, then grieve it immediately! If given a trip failure, I'll be d@mmed if I'm going to fly that same trip (I'll be too busy filling out the grievance).

As for the seven min departure after duty in, I simply don't put up with that. When they call me for a trip I tell them to adjust the departure time with the one hour duty in included, then I MAKE them send me a pairing with correct times on it....I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS get a pairing. This has saved me several times when they have tried to monkey with block, and turn times, in effort to squeeze in another roundtrip. I've taken the original pairing, then their "revised" bull$hit pairing to the CPO, and won the day many times.

RJP, the whole reason for the two-hour callout (used to be one hour), was to keep pilots from hurtling themselves through Atlanta traffic--it was/is a safety issue. If your not from Atlanta, you wouldn't understand.

If Island Air puts up with a one our callout, so be it. You can hurtle yourself through traffic to fly a bugsmasher, I have no desire to do that.

 

[Yank McCobb]

Burn gas, ground airplanes, don't put up with any BS from the black hearted schedulers, be too busy filling out your grievance to fly the trip, and if you're Delta and want to come to ASA, then you'd better have a good attitude.

Do I have that correct, Palerider?

 

[Palerider957]

Burn gas, ground airplanes, don't put up with any BS from the black hearted schedulers, be too busy filling out your grievance to fly the trip, and if you're Delta and want to come to ASA, then you'd better have a good attitude.

Do I have that correct, Palerider?

You have it EXACTLY right, Yanker.

 

[V-1]

How about COMAIR's callout? I'm interested in working there and would most likely be JFK based. Traffic could play a major factor in that decision while on reserve. Any guess how long reserve at JFK would be for a new hire? Thanks.

Fifteen minutes to answer the page, then 90 minutes to report. To the best of my knowledge, you'll report an hour prior to departure.

There are too many variables to proffer an intelligent, informed opinion about how long reserve will last at JFK for a new hire. Best wishes for the job search.

 

[CUEBOAT]

Fifteen minutes to answer the page, then 90 minutes to report. To the best of my knowledge, you'll report an hour prior to departure.

There are too many variables to proffer an intelligent, informed opinion about how long reserve will last at JFK for a new hire. Best wishes for the job search.

There are also too many variables to predict NYC traffic which couldn't be worse anywhere else in the coutnry, at times it takes me 2 hours to drive 15 miles to LGA

 

[upndsky]

ExpressJet:

2 hours for short call reserves
12 hours for long call

 

[roadrunner]

SkyWest--
90 minute call out from the time they try to contact you. In DEN it takes 20 minutes alone to get from the parking lot to the crew lounge. Not to mention, the airport is in BFE so good luck making that 90 mins. I believe they are "testing" a 120 min callout for ORD although I dont know the status of that one. They seem to always have someone at the airport on Ready Reserve, so why they have to have a 90 min callout is beyond me.