Requirements for first solo........

[pilotpat]

Funny thing is he said he didn't notice them taking off when I asked him later. However, when we practiced landings there, it was always odd to hear the Tower say, "N1234, traffic 3 o'clock for parallel runway, pair of F-16's on the overhead". So, basically, the time it took for us to go from midfield downwind to base, they had overflown the runway, turned crosswind, downwind and then we were head to head on base. Quite remarkable to see two F-16's coming right at you!! And THAT was a daily occurance I won't ever forget.

Oh, and then you had Davis-Monthan (sp) a few miles away and you'd have B-2's, A-10's and a plethera of other things called as traffic. Crazy, yet fun all at the same time!!

 

[pgcfii2002]

Actually both my students have solo previously a few years ago so I am not worried. Just want to make sure I have all my legal paperwork in order.

So they basically get in the logbook:

Pre Solo Written 61.87
Solo in make and model
Repeated solo to an airport within 25NM (local airport)
Solo between local airport and another practice airport

 

[nosehair]

Are you sure about this one? Where in the Regs does it say you have to give an endorsement for this?

This is not an actually required endorsement. It is required to administer and correct a pre-solo test(61.87(b), but an endorsement to that fact is not required. It is done as a convienient way of documenting that fact, since the regulations do not actually say what to do with the test.

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

This is not an actually required endorsement. It is required to administer and correct a pre-solo test(61.87(b), but an endorsement to that fact is not required. It is done as a convienient way of documenting that fact, since the regulations do not actually say what to do with the test.

Thank you but I was trying to make him figure that out =) I actually learned this one on the phone with the fsdo while my student was sitting in the plane waiting to solo. I had picked him up from another CFI and he forgot to endorse for his pre solo written.

 

[nosehair]

I had picked him up from another CFI and he forgot to endorse for his pre solo written.

Good point for discussion here. Do you know that the instructor who solo's the student is also responsible to administer and correct the pre-solo test?

61.87(b)(2) The student's authorized instructor must -
(i) Administer the test;and
(ii) at the conclusion of the test, review all incorrect answers with the student before authorizing that student to conduct a solo flight.

So, whoever endorses the student certificate and logbook must also administer and correct the pre-solo test.

If you pick up a student who is about ready to solo, and his previous instructor has administered the presolo test, you are still responsible to do another presolo test, or at least go over the one he has already done and re-sign off on it.

 

[pgcfii2002]

I solo'd my first student this morning!!!!

 

[nosehair]

I solo'd my first student this morning!!!!

Almost as good as your first solo, huh?...

 

[pilotpat]

Ahh...yes...what nice memories. You will probably remember the student's name for years to come. I still know mine and that was "all the way back" in 2001. Congrats!

 

[pgcfii2002]

Almost as good as your first solo, huh?...

I was more excited for him than scared.......it does bring back memories though.