Request for Evergreen Pilots

[NERVOUS]

May any Evergreen pilots on this board please give me a PM at your convenience?

Thanks in advance

 

[Kikuchiyo]

Just heard on the "other board" that EZ furloughed the most recent class on their last day of ground school. Anyone able to confirm?

 

[spitfire1500]

Just heard on the "other board" that EZ furloughed the most recent class on their last day of ground school. Anyone able to confirm?

Yes...but there may be more to the story.

 

[Zoneload]

I think they will be back soon...Things are slow in Feb about 5 planes parked for MX things look good starting in March. I guess they backed out of the deal for the 2 GE jets. Same old evergreen stuff...

 

[Nolife]

Just saw an ad on climbto350.com that Evergreen is hiring FO's and SO's. If they just furloughed what gives?

Are they one of those companies that furlough then recall then furlough to avoid paying folks during down time?

 

[Zoneload]

They used to do that all the time but in the past few years they haven't. Now they have guys sitting at home waiting to start IOE and they were still hiring so that could be part of the problem. All I know is Smith came in pissed and said let people go.. I think it will be short term...

 

[JustInfo]

And he knows there will always be guys to fly open time while guys are on furlough....like he said - same old EZ.

 

[Zoneload]

You are correct if the guys would not fly open time things would be better...

 

[propsarebest]

The furloughs are company wide, not just flight ops...

 

[Zoneload]

You are correct we lost 5 or 6 people.. I think DX lost one, crew sked 1 also... It is not good alot of good people involved. I hope it is short lived.

 

[chickenpilot]

You are correct we lost 5 or 6 people.. I think DX lost one, crew sked 1 also... It is not good alot of good people involved. I hope it is short lived.

I have been told it was more than 5 or 6 it was the entire new hire class of 12. They were told at the end of class on their last day.

 

[Zoneload]

The 5 or 6 were from another dept.. The cuts were from all throughout the airline.

 

[FlickerFade]

Yes, the Evergreen crews aren't scheduling and positioning themselves well enough. This causes missed flights, which lead to lost revenues, which lead to furloughs.

And the pilots aren't doing maintenance well enough either.

 

[TWA]

Off topic a little bit, but what does Evergreen do with their Casas? I know they're seldom seen in the US, but that's about it.

 

[Zoneload]

It was not only the pilots that were layed off. MX, DX. crew sked, Sys ops and several other parts of EIA had to let people go. I know pilots only care about pilot jobs so lets try to think about the other people at the company now out of work also!! It dose not make any sense to lay people off for a month but that is what he has done so all we can do is hope it is short lived and move on. I think the number used was 10% for all depts...

 

[FlickerFade]

What's so silly is that it's avoidable! I mean the performance of the airline rides on the backs of interns and minimum wage(at least minimal wage) employees, right?! If pilots didn't speak up about positioning and work on days off, AND make 30% less than competitors, where would this airline be?!

No, I don't buy that furloughs were necessary in any department.

*** My tone is in response to the phone mail that was left yesterday re: performance BTW.(

 

[propsarebest]

The c-212's.... shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Those are not spoken about...

 

[Zoneload]

I do not get phone mail so I did not hear the massage that you speak of. I agree with you that the furlough was not called for. To blame anyone for the for the airline preformence or lack there of is crazy. What I was getting at is there were more people affected by this then the pilots. I hope you guys are back to work soon as I really like working with most of you guys..

 

[Rottweiller]

What's so silly is that it's avoidable! I mean the performance of the airline rides on the backs of interns and minimum wage(at least minimal wage) employees, right?! If pilots didn't speak up about positioning and work on days off, AND make 30% less than competitors, where would this airline be?!

No, I don't buy that furloughs were necessary in any department.

*** My tone is in response to the phone mail that was left yesterday re: performance BTW.(

What is even more silly is all the money already laid out on the NH class, hotel $30,000+, van rentals, books etc etc. Sim was already booked, most had a wait of only 10 days before heading there, more money wasted on cancellations.

 

[Zoneload]

To much money wasted is the big story... I am hoping are new airline prez can talk some sense into the old man to keep this from happening again. He has been doing a good job of keeping silly stuff like this from going on but this time he could not...I guess

 

[Master Shake]

I worked for EIA almost 4 years, the last two were in ops. All this sounds so familar. Good luck to you guys. As long as Del still runs the show that company will always be fubar.

 

[Draginass]

Another scum-bag freighter outfit. Hire, furlough, hire, furlough. Evergreen, Gemini, Tradewinds, etc etc. If you work there, expect to be treated like day-labor in the barrio.

 

[FlickerFade]

Another scum-bag freighter outfit. Hire, furlough, hire, furlough. Evergreen, Gemini, Tradewinds, etc etc. If you work there, expect to be treated like day-labor in the barrio.

Another scumbag flame baiter.

 

[Zoneload]

Evergreen was getting better about laying off in fact it was 2003 when Smith last did this.I think they were gone for about 2 months... But just when you thought it was safe...

 

[spitfire1500]

Evergreen was getting better about laying off in fact it was 2003 when Smith last did this.I think they were gone for about 2 months... But just when you thought it was safe...

Evergreen recalled the New Hire pilots today before their furlough even went into affect.

 

[Publishers]

Any carrier that does not have its own market is subject to the variables of others. EZ has always been a contractor and when the have, they need, when they lose contracts , they terminate, it is that simple.

 

[Zoneload]

Wow that was short lived.. But we thought it would be. There was no need to put these guys through this.

 

[chickenpilot]

recalls

Evergreen recalled the New Hire pilots today before their furlough even went into affect.

Some still wont be back probably.

 

[Zoneload]

Some of these guys will move on to something else... But for those who don't welcome back. Now all they need is to call the crew sked,DX and Sys ops people back..