Regionals doing INT'L flying

[aa73]

CA and I were discussing this on my last trip... coming out of SJU and we heard "Flagship" which I believe is a NWA (Delta) regional on the radio. I've also seen XJT in SJU (charter stuff.)

What US regionals do int'l routes? Don't include Canada and Mexico as those are typically considered domestic among airlines. I mean stuff like Caribbean and South America.

Thanks 73

 

[Lynxman]

Eagle

 

[Lynxman]

Cape Air

 

[makersmarc]

Is SJU considered international now?

 

[LearLove]

Northern Mexico, Upper Carib and Canada are not really intl. Yeah I'd like to see the guy selling himself as an Intl. Capt. because he flew a 170 from PHL to YYZ.

 

[WSurf]

Is SJU considered international now?

I was thinking the same thing!

 

[dojetdriver]

CA and I were discussing this on my last trip... coming out of SJU and we heard "Flagship" which I believe is a NWA (Delta) regional on the radio. I've also seen XJT in SJU (charter stuff.)

What US regionals do int'l routes? Don't include Canada and Mexico as those are typically considered domestic among airlines. I mean stuff like Caribbean and South America.

Thanks 73

I know you said not to include Mexico, but at one time, XJT USED to go to about 30 places in Mexico, as well as Guatemala City. Trust me, MANY of those places in Mexico are pretty freaking foreign. Not the usual Americanized tourist destinations.

Canada is as far east as YYT.

 

[Flyby1206]

A lot of the Delta Connection Carriers fly ATL-Caribbean destinations. XJT does a lot of deep Mexico. And of course Eagle does a lot of intra-Caribbean flying under their Executive Certificate. The Executive operating cert covers a lot of Central and South America, but they dont utilize any of those privileges. I cant think of any US regionals that hit S.America

 

[ShutupandFly]

Flagship / Pinnacle.

 

[aa73]

Yep, I was thinking more along the lines of ATL-Caribbean. Do the CRJs/ERJs have HFs, or do you guys stay in radar contact when going down there?

Also, at Pinnacle are the Caribbean flights considered an Int'l bid status? For example, at AA if you are Domestic you would never do the islands... you would have to be in the Int'l bid status to go anywhere past Canada and Mexico. Reason being, there is an Int'l ground school you have to go through. Same deal for you guys?

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Pinnacle does ATL- St. Croix.

You don't need HF to go to any place in the Caribbean out of ATL.

AA splits things up differently. At DL we call international "ER" and that starts at 3 degrees south of the equator or anytime youre doing an ocean crossing.

 

[resetjet]

I know EV's 900's have HF and alot of the flying is non-radar to the islands

 

[unwashed]

two hours cruise time North or South of border is usually considered domestic flying.

 

[aa73]

Two questions: when did the regionals start doing Int'l? b/c it's the first I've heard about it (back in '98-99 timeframe when I was at ACA, regional int'l flying was UNHEARD of! except of course Canada.)

and do you guys have a separate Int'l ground school or is it all part of your regular training? re: HF operation, position reports, etc.

Thanks!

 

[unwashed]

My last regional was Flag. I think they had been flag for many years by the time I got there.

 

[wms]

Is SJU considered international now?

And GO flies in Hawaii.

St. Croix is a US Island.

And most Caribbean flying is in radar coverage. You might not have radar coverage in the terminal environment, but there are US airports where you don't either. In the islands where there is no radar, there is usually nothing to run into and non-radar just means no one sees your mistakes.

There aren't many places left in the northern part of the western hemisphere that would be considered non-radar to the extent of position reporting, blind transmissions, cumulo-granite if you're off-course, etc.

 

[aa73]

There aren't many places left in the northern part of the western hemisphere that would be considered non-radar to the extent of position reporting, blind transmissions, cumulo-granite if you're off-course, etc.

Anything running north out of SJU along WATRS is non radar and requires position reports. Just didn't know if any regionals did that sort of thing, such as IAD-SJU (wouldn't surprise me at all to see a UAX 170 on that...)

 

[701EV]

Atlantic Southeast, use to do, STX, JPS, BQN, BPV, MID, CZM, BZR in the CRJ-700.

 

[wms]

Anything running north out of SJU along WATRS is non radar and requires position reports. Just didn't know if any regionals did that sort of thing, such as IAD-SJU (wouldn't surprise me at all to see a UAX 170 on that...)

That's extended over water. It's a non-radar environment, but a little different than your typical non-radar environment.



www.faa.gov/.../WATRS.../WATRSPlus_RoutingProceduresNOTAM_A0353_24May.doc
(not a link, just an address.)

 

[altimaklr]

Pinnacle also does BZE and MTY