Reading Maxim in uniform

[wmuflyguy]

Ok, so today I was commuting home (in uniform), I was sitting in the seat across from the Aft galley on the MD88, reading Maxim minding my own business. The FA in the galley says, "I don't think that is appropriate reading material for the airplane"

I thought she was joking at first, and she was smiling, but after a couple minutes she comes back, and says a little more bitchily "Our company would have a problem if we were reading soemthing like that in uniform, and that since your in uniform you should put it away."

I tell her "I read it all the time in uniform in airports and never got a complaint before, but i'll put it away if it offends you"

Anyways during take-off sure enough her Cosmopolitain magazine falls off the galley shelf and lands on the floor, with some great title on it like "20 positions that will knock your guys socks off".

Anyways, lets here it, Who thinks Maxim is or isn't appropriate reading when your in uniform.

Oh an my next flight no-compliants from the FA's(they were very nice), but the guy next to me asked if he could read it.

 

[Hypoxik]

I think it is one of those weird situations you have to feel out. Kinda like should you have a drink, if your jumping home in the back? Though you have all your bars,wings, and hat yanked, people still know your a pilot. Some F/A's encourage you to have a drink or two granted you have your stuff ripped off, some don't. Just have to feel out the people around you and the crew. I can see how that may be a bit weird with the Maxim, double standard though. People would never look differently at an FA for a Cosmo...but maybe because they already have made such assumptions about them!

 

[makersmarc]

She was probably looking for a fight. Personally, I find Maxim less objectionable than, say, Rolling Stone or any Al Franken book.

 

[Guitar Guy]

It would have been interesting to confront the first FA about her Cosmo. I can't imagine that she could argue that Maxim is inappropriate while claiming that somehow Cosmo is a high-brow, non-offensive read.

Some people go out of their way in order to feel offended. It's hard to feel sympathy for them when they get exactly what they were looking for.

 

[Corbon]

"I apologize ma'am and I'll stow it immediately. Instead I'll get out my new book called "SHUT THE F&*K UP" BY DENNIS LEARY! NOW GET BACK THE THE KITCHEN AND STRAP THAT CART ON AND FIX ME A DRINK. JACK AND COKE! NOOOOOOOW! <CLAP CLAP>

 

[FN FAL]

Simple, get a subscription to SAR and quit reading that metro-sexual pony tail crap and you wont have that problem anymore.

 

[blueridge71]

Basically, the crew that is letting you commute is always right.

I remember ACA had something in the FOM about reading adult magazines, but I can't remember how it was worded. Maxim isn't really an adult magazine the way Playboy and Penthouse are, but someone who has never read it wouldn't know that it wasn't by looking at the cover.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Simple, get a subscription to SAR and quit reading that metro-sexual pony tail crap and you wont have that problem anymore.

So you're saying he should read gun-fetishist mullet-wearing crap instead?














I keed. I keed. (Before you have an aneurism.) :beer:

 

[Dodge]

I think it is one of those weird situations you have to feel out. Kinda like should you have a drink, if your jumping home in the back? Though you have all your bars,wings, and hat yanked, people still know your a pilot. Some F/A's encourage you to have a drink or two granted you have your stuff ripped off, some don't. Just have to feel out the people around you and the crew. I can see how that may be a bit weird with the Maxim, double standard though. People would never look differently at an FA for a Cosmo...but maybe because they already have made such assumptions about them!

Uh, I think that if one is jumpseating, there is no question as to whether or not you should have a drink. ACM/XCM stands for additional/extra crew member. On the other hand, if one is non revving, on a pass, etc.....drink up. Especially if you are in the first 4 rows since it is free.

Back to the topic. Tell her to ask the captain if he allows "his" jumpseaters to read that brand. Also tell her that there is a Inflight Ghost Rider onboard watching her read her sex mag.

 

[FlyingFerris]

I had a similar experience with one of our flight attendents dead heading back to DTW from MSP on an EMPTY 757(she had her pick of empty aisles and sat in the same one as me, not a good thing.)

I bust out my Michigan Out of Doors (Basically a conservastion/hunting/fishing in an equal mix,) and proceed to relax and read. I hear "I don't like hunting," out of the trashy whores mouth, and I mummble a reply to the effect of "oh that's too bad, or sorry you don't." She got visably upset at that comment and goes on how since she didn't like hunting I should have the decency of not reading about it front of her, blah, blah, blah. I told her to not like hunting in one of the rows aft of us, and I'll go on not liking her right here. Seemed to work, never heard anorther word out of her.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I can understand that passengers may think that since you're in uniform that you work for the airline you're on. Therefore you at soem level, even if off-diuty, represent the company. It was wise and respectful to comply with her wishes, although you could have just removed your tie and epaulets and contiuned reading.

At any rate, it doesnt seem too steamy of a mag to read. Most people really aren't offended by such pulp.

 

[ReportCanoa]

Not to get on a high horse, but Maxim is complete trash. Save your money, or buy the New Yorker or the Wall Street Journal. Those writers can turn the most boring subject into something fascinating even if you don't agree with their views. And you'll look smarter too!

 

[DoinTime]

Basically, the crew that is letting you commute is always right.

This is all that needs to be said. Jumpseating is no different than being a guest in someones house. If you don't like their rules, tough sh*t.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

A good magazine with intelligent, ecclectic and cultured articles is The New Yorker magazine, not to be confused with New York magazine. Besides, it has great cartoons too! (The New Yorker, that is.)

 

[pilotguy733]

Reading Maxim in uniform is really tacky. This industry is getting less professional all the time! I'd give you a dirty look if I was sitting near you, and if I was your captain, I'd have a private man-to-man lesson on professionalism.

I'm getting really sick of seeing:

1. Pilots listening to Ipods
2. Pilots wearing backpacks
3. Reading Maxim or similar in public
4. Swearing in public
5. Pants from Sears that aren't even the right color blue
6. Your student pilot flight bag
7. Etc Etc!! I'm sure the FI crowd will come up with more...

Now I'm not a total shmuck - I think its perfectly acceptable to read whatever ya want in the cockpit - AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC EYE. Or, if conditions are appropriate, listing to an Ipod.

 

[Ty Webb]

Too funny . . . . I can't count the number of times I've had a F/A hand me a copy of Maxim that was left behind on the airplane, saying, "Here, do you want this?". Obviously, the one you had the "run-in" with was trying to make a point that had nothing to do with the magazine. Since she was obviously passive-aggressive and had a problem articulating her feelings, let me attempt to translate:

1) "Your magazine reminded me I have a big, fat as.s".

2) I have been dumped by one too many pilots, and so I am taking it out on you, since you are here".

3) "I Hate men".

4) I'm unhappy, so I won't stop until you're unhappy, too".

5) "Aren't you glad you're not married to me?"

I actually had a F/A tell me that she would appreciate it if I would put down my newspaper and pay attention to her saftey demo. I burst out laughing. When she didn't laugh, I asked her, "You aren't serious, are you?" I thought that was pretty funny.

 

[atrdriver]

I probably wouldn't read a Maxim while sitting in the back, but i can promise you that there isn't 1 in 10 FA's (female anyway) that don't read their Cosmo's while on their jumpseats, in front of the passengers.

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Reading Maxim in uniform is really tacky. This industry is getting less professional all the time! I'd give you a dirty look if I was sitting near you, and if I was your captain, I'd have a private man-to-man lesson on professionalism.

I'm getting really sick of seeing:

1. Pilots listening to Ipods
2. Pilots wearing backpacks
3. Reading Maxim or similar in public
4. Swearing in public
5. Pants from Sears that aren't even the right color blue
6. Your student pilot flight bag
7. Etc Etc!! I'm sure the FI crowd will come up with more...

Now I'm not a total shmuck - I think its perfectly acceptable to read whatever ya want in the cockpit - AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC EYE. Or, if conditions are appropriate, listing to an Ipod.

You are a tool. WTF is wrong with listing to an IPOD??? I get the pants and flight bag/backpack. Do must be the type of golden day glory boy that wears your full uniform around town. If you are a captain then you are probly a "this will be my leg" every flight guy..


Chil out man get with the times its not the 50's anymore

 

[GogglesPisano]

Let me guess ... Delta.



Only in America would Maxim be considered unsuitable. Granted, the magazine is tacky and crude, but it is not unacceptable reading.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Too funny . . . . I can't count the number of times I've had a F/A hand me a copy of Maxim that was left behind on the airplane, saying, "Here, do you want this?". Obviously, the one you had the "run-in" with was trying to make a point that had nothing to do with the magazine. Since she was obviously passive-aggressive and had a problem articulating her feelings, let me attempt to translate:

1) "Your magazine reminded me I have a big, fat as.s".

2) I have been dumped by one too many pilots, and so I am taking it out on you, since you are here".

3) "I Hate men".

4) I'm unhappy, so I won't stop until you're unhappy, too".

5) "Aren't you glad you're not married to me?"

I actually had a F/A tell me that she would appreciate it if I would put down my newspaper and pay attention to her saftey demo. I burst out laughing. When she didn't laugh, I asked her, "You aren't serious, are you?" I thought that was pretty funny.

For the first time in my long life I agree 100% with TY.

this pig was just a man-hater.

I would have just smiled and put it away, and had a big grin when her only sexual-companion Cosmo mag fell out.

She also probably has a diesel powered vibrator at home.....

anyways..


and hey, whats wrong with an Ipod when you are a pax? Pretty lame when walking the airport in uniform, but I find them the perfect way to avoid talking to Joe Businesssman with $hit breath in First Class. (that and the latest issue of Combat Handguns or something...doh!)

 

[8HourPilot]

Every time I read posts like this, I put more $hit in my backpack so it sticks out further.
But at that time, I don't have room for my Ipod.

Reading Maxim in uniform is really tacky. This industry is getting less professional all the time! I'd give you a dirty look if I was sitting near you, and if I was your captain, I'd have a private man-to-man lesson on professionalism.

I'm getting really sick of seeing:

1. Pilots listening to Ipods
2. Pilots wearing backpacks
3. Reading Maxim or similar in public
4. Swearing in public
5. Pants from Sears that aren't even the right color blue
6. Your student pilot flight bag
7. Etc Etc!! I'm sure the FI crowd will come up with more...

Now I'm not a total shmuck - I think its perfectly acceptable to read whatever ya want in the cockpit - AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC EYE. Or, if conditions are appropriate, listing to an Ipod.

 

[Jack Mehoff]

yeah 8Hour!! Got the backpack gunna pack it up nice! Don't want security to get suspicious cause Mr. Pibb and Redvines=crazy delicious!

 

[mrflier]

...I'd have a private man-to-man lesson...

What does this mean?

 

[CRJDog]

You are a tool. WTF is wrong with listing to an IPOD??? I get the pants and flight bag/backpack. Do must be the type of golden day glory boy that wears your full uniform around town. If you are a captain then you are probly a "this will be my leg" every flight guy..


Chil out man get with the times its not the 50's anymore

I have an 8 track. It's the size of my rollerboard and I also have my headset with two giant antennas that stick up each ear cup.

Now that's technology.

 

[AVDAD]

.....

She also probably has a diesel powered vibrator at home.....

anyways...

Man you think, I knew about the two cycles ones, but diesel. For the longest time I thought the old lady was workin on the weedwacker, boy was I surprised.

AVDAD

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Man you think, I knew about the two cycles ones, but diesel. For the longest time I thought the old lady was workin on the weedwacker, boy was I surprised.

AVDAD

nah...little cutie slim chiks use the 2 stroke models...fast and furious..

the average old pig Major Airline F/A needs the hard hitting power of a big CAT Diesel to satisfy that mammoth well-worn orifice.

 

[BoilerUP]

I'm getting really sick of seeing:

1. Pilots listening to Ipods
2. Pilots wearing backpacks
3. Reading Maxim or similar in public
4. Swearing in public
5. Pants from Sears that aren't even the right color blue
6. Your student pilot flight bag
7. Etc Etc!! I'm sure the FI crowd will come up with more...

I agree with most everything, but I'm not bothered by Maxim and don't think most people would be either. The iPods and backpacks in uniform and nylon Sporty's Pilot Shop flightbags drive me NUTS though. The same people that that wear backpacks and refuse to wear hats are the people that complain the loudest about not being paid like a professional. News flash - if you want to be paid like a 'professional', you need to look and act like one! That's especially true when you are relatively young (like myself). I have an iPod and I commute with it, but I don't think its proper for me to have little white earbuds in while in uniform, especially on a fairly full flight. So it stays in the bag if I'm in uniform.

Your mileage may vary...

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

As a female f/o I'd allow you to read it, and the captains I fly with would too! Really, who cares...plus, like it was said earlier: anything can offend anyone lately. Maxim is not bad, Cosmo is just plain stupid. What is it with drink-cart-mafia these days? I flew home on saturday (in plain clothes, on our big fat mainline carrier) and the lead FA were such a cow. I was very polite and I still got stink eye. I think some employees love to treat non-revs like crap just because they like to see what they can get away with.

That said, if I were you, I'd comply with putting it away, since it wasn't your airline. I wouldn't want to get taken off the aircraft and be without a ride home. Just my 2 cents.

-FW

 

[wmuflyguy]

Let me guess ... Delta.



Only in America would Maxim be considered unsuitable. Granted, the magazine is tacky and crude, but it is not unacceptable reading.

Correct.

Originally Posted by pilotguy733
Reading Maxim in uniform is really tacky. This industry is getting less professional all the time! I'd give you a dirty look if I was sitting near you, and if I was your captain, I'd have a private man-to-man lesson on professionalism.

I'm getting really sick of seeing:

1. Pilots listening to Ipods
2. Pilots wearing backpacks
3. Reading Maxim or similar in public
4. Swearing in public
5. Pants from Sears that aren't even the right color blue
6. Your student pilot flight bag
7. Etc Etc!! I'm sure the FI crowd will come up with more...

Now I'm not a total shmuck - I think its perfectly acceptable to read whatever ya want in the cockpit - AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC EYE. Or, if conditions are appropriate, listing to an Ipod.

As for the magazine I put it away when she decide to come back the second time. I wasn't technically jumpseating, jsut non-reving home(Since we work for big D), but was in uniform. Anywways, it wasn't worth making a big deal over it and not worth any controversy.

I don't have an IPOD, I have a PSP and an XM radio too, no backpack yet. My pants are from JC Penny's not Sears.

As for a private man-to-man anything, no thanks.

I always wanted to start a multi-page thread.

 

[General Lee]

Ok, so today I was commuting home (in uniform), I was sitting in the seat across from the Aft galley on the MD88, reading Maxim minding my own business. The FA in the galley says, "I don't think that is appropriate reading material for the airplane"

I thought she was joking at first, and she was smiling, but after a couple minutes she comes back, and says a little more bitchily "Our company would have a problem if we were reading soemthing like that in uniform, and that since your in uniform you should put it away."

I tell her "I read it all the time in uniform in airports and never got a complaint before, but i'll put it away if it offends you"

Anyways during take-off sure enough her Cosmopolitain magazine falls off the galley shelf and lands on the floor, with some great title on it like "20 positions that will knock your guys socks off".

Anyways, lets here it, Who thinks Maxim is or isn't appropriate reading when your in uniform.

Oh an my next flight no-compliants from the FA's(they were very nice), but the guy next to me asked if he could read it.

You should have told her you would be watching her if she was reading any magazine on the job, or doing a book of Soduku puzzles. Tell her to $crew off, and a Maxim is a Male Cosmopolitan magazine. I would have rolled my eyes and then returned to reading it. IF you turned it on it's side like you were looking at a fold out of a naked babe, then that would have been a bad idea.


Bye Bye--General Lee