Re-Engined Sabers

[Groundpounder]

Why hasn't there been a engine re-fit for Saberliners, like there is for Falcons, Old Hawkers, and so on? I've heard they are pretty good planes, but I'm sure they could be improved greatly with a modern engine.

 

[Headwind]

The Sabre 65 is just that. It has 731-3's and the wings are heated with bleed air. It will out perform most aircraft in its class and most of them have -5 engines. We get .82 in the high 30's if it's ISA +3 or cooler. It also has a range of over 2400 km.
They had plans to build a Sabre 85 which was a Sabre 80 with 731-5 engines, but Rockwell stopped building all civilian aircraft.
There's not enough 80's around to off-set the cost of R & D for a conversion.

Headwind

 

[SCT]

Headwind,

Is there anyone certifying the Saber for RVSM?

I flew with a guy that had alot of Saber time. He used to rave about how nice they flew, tough, and how fast they were down low.

SCT

 

[SabreFlyR]

Is there anyone certifying the Saber for RVSM?

I flew with a guy that had alot of Saber time. He used to rave about how nice they flew, tough, and how fast they were down low.




Sabreliner Corp. and Avmats have stc's for rvsm on the 65. Sabre and Avmats are working together on an rvsm stc for the 80 model and are suppose to pursue a 40/60 rvsm stc after the 80 is certified.

It is a great flying airplane, easy to hand fly and built tough. Unfortunately the older models are corrosion prone, a problem that was fixed somewhat after about s/n 17 in the 65 model although it still has some trouble spots.

Parts are still easy to come by, Sabre is still supporting the plane, however it is a dying breed and I would imagine they will be a rare sight in the next 10 years.

 

[gear_guy]

Headwind-

Isnt it 2400nm, instead of km. Gees! I cant believe I just said that. I've become one of them. I need a vacation!!

 

[some_dude]

Here ya go...

Here is the re-engined Sabre I want (after someone else test flies it):

http://www.xprize.org/teams/panaero.html

 

[banned username 2]

Here is the re-engined Sabre I want (after someone else test flies it):

http://www.xprize.org/teams/panaero.html

YIKES! Mach 2.97 in a Sabreliner... I think I'll take the zero on that assignment!

 

[Headwind]

STC,

Our Sabre has been flying RVSM since 1999.
I guess it is nm not km.

Headwind

 

[na265]

Everything headwind said is right on. We did the RVSM, TAWS and ELT at AVMATS over the Christmas holidays. The thing with the 65 is that there are only about 75 of them around. I don't think there would be enough airplanes for someone to recoup the money it would take to do major mods the the airplane. If this doesn't make any sense, it's because I've been up since 3 am and it is now 2100. Long day.