Ramp Check

[sky37d]

Today, I got ramp checked, and I didn't have my medical with me. Interestingly enough, neither did the right seater.

What/how much, trouble am I in??
Thanks
Been gone a lot.

 

[Flysher]

Just out of curiosity, how come ya didnt have your medical with you?

Probably a violation of 61.3 would be my guess, but I dont know for sure.

Maybe nothing?

 

[erj-145mech]

Did they see you fly without it? You must have it in your possesion to operate an aircraft. If you were just hanging around on the ramp around your airplane, you don't have to have it on you, but let some air get under the tires, and all bets are off.

 

[sky37d]

well, we taxied in, got out, and he was there.
log book, medical, and some insurance papers are all, always, carried in a little thing, that was left on the counter when I left.

So, how bad is it? suspension?

 

[FlaZoomie]

Well, guess you'll not forget in the future.....

 

[sky37d]

It's back in the plane, as soon as I got back to home.

 

[ackattacker]

So, how bad is it? suspension?

You should talk to an aviation attorney. He or she will probably give you better advice than FlightInfo.

Are you an AOPA member? I think you get something like a 30 minute free consultation (not sure...)

According to the AOPA legal services website a "typical" response to failure to produce a certificate upon request is a 30 day suspension.

 

[sky37d]

I offered to fax it to him, and he said that wasn't necessary. He said he believed that I had a current medical.

I am a member of AOPA, and I sent a note to an AOPA attorney I know.

 

[epic!]

hope it all works out

 

[Guitar rocker]

I offered to fax it to him, and he said that wasn't necessary. He said he believed that I had a current medical.

I am a member of AOPA, and I sent a note to an AOPA attorney I know.

If the Fed didnt think much of it and if he didnt tell you that he was going to bust you, I wouldnt worry a whole lot about it. Ofcourse, that is NOT to say that you wont get a letter in the mail over it.........Did know a few guys recently that made a bit of a wide turn blasting off out of SMO and they were given a number to call, and after that chit chat, they thought all was good. It wasnt......the letter DID show up in the mail.

I think a lot depends on the Fed himself. I know another guy that had to chat with a fed about something that was really minor.....it was a new fed who just came from a commuter airline.....and that new fed hadnt yet forgotten where he came from...hopefully never will. Those are the more realistic ones. But then there are the extremely unrealistic ones who are just out there to bust everyone. Sounds like your guy was OK....but then again, you did the right thing by contacting an attorney. In the end, some may be nice...but none can be trusted for sure.

Just out of curiousity, what did the attorney think?

 

[JediNein]

File a NASA ASRS form: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/forms_nf.htm
Send it certified mail so you have proof.

If you get an LOI, let the inspector know you filed an ASRS (showing evidence of a compliant attitude), and see if he can 'solve' the problem with counseling or an administrative letter, all of which to avoid worse actions.

Sometimes mea culpa works. . .

Good Luck!
Jedi Nein

 

[landlover]

well, we taxied in, got out, and he was there.
log book, medical, and some insurance papers are all, always, carried in a little thing, that was left on the counter when I left.

So, how bad is it? suspension?

Just curious why you carry your logbook around with you? Mine hasn't left my home in over 3 years.

 

[DX Rick]

I knew this guy once who was ramped and didn't have his medical. The fed said he trusted him and let him leave without incident.

They later found the pilots body, face down in a 3 inch puddle of water.

 

[agpilot34]

Just curious why you carry your logbook around with you? Mine hasn't left my home in over 3 years.

Amen to that! I learned my lesson several years ago when I had my flight bag stolen out of my truck. Besides around $2000 worth of headsets and a GPS, it had my first logbook in it. After the trouble of reconstructiing all that mess, plus the memories that were lost in that book (first solo, first cross countries, first time I took my girlfriend at the time flying, etc.), mine NEVER leave the house, and I keep them in a locked fireproof box here.

 

[epic!]

i carry my logbook in my flight bag, but since im working on my instrument i kind of need it after every lesson.

 

[RightPedal]

I was ramp checked once in Florida by the most beautiful redhead girl you ever saw.
She checked my papers and then started an inspection of my airplane. She grounded me for two items. One, the N-number was double black line as if it were applied with black electrical tape. It wasn't, they were painted on. She said they were finding aircraft in Florida with numbers done in tape so they could be changed for dope runs.
She then found one rivet on the right wing tip that she said was an automotive type rivet and that made the airplane un-airworthy.
I won on the rivet thing but they made me fix the numbers even though they were painted on.
The guy with her said he wanted to be sure that I understood that they weren't pushing me around. They were doing their job to keep my privilege to operate in the aviation system safe.