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toolowgear said:
It reflects hurried or poor training. Proceedures were not properly instilled.

Dude, what's your beef with Ram? Did they turn you down for a job or did you flunk out of training?

First, you have no idea what happened. It could have been mechanical and the pilot did a great job.

Second, this has nothing to do with hurried or poor training. Following procedures should be instilled from the time the pilot shows up for his or her first lesson. Assuming the typical progression an apsiring professional pilot takes to obtain certificates and ratings, he/she already knows how to swing the gear when they get to 250 hours. By the time they get to Ram, there's nothing the company can teach more about proper gear operating procedures that would have affected the outcome of this incident.

Third, you're a tool.
 
You must be a genius to speculate and know everything about a company you have never worked for. It was pilot error that does not have to do with Ramair it has to do with a pilots poor judgment. Very good explaination from upndsky.
 
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Yeah, no kidding. Let's have no idea of the facts, let's just harp on people that aren't even involved at Ram, have nothing to do with training, hiring or ops. Sounds like a guy with a beef rather than someone who knows the least little thing about how things work at Ram.

Disclaimer: Don't work at Ram, but I have friends who do and say it's a top-notch company, very professional and safety-oriented. The downside: they pay crap! Doesn't have anything to do with gear-up landing, though---depending on the situation, it was a mechanical problem and the guy did a good job getting it down safe, or it was pilot error and ended up lucky after a brain fart. Either way---not much the company can do about either of those situations.

Pipe down, Francis.
 
FlyingSkip said:
Disclaimer: Don't work at Ram, but I have friends who do and say it's a top-notch company, very professional and safety-oriented. The downside: they pay crap! .

The pay is competitive for the industry. Yeah, its on the lower side, but its average for 135 check hauling. Plus its a great company. I wouldn't let the amount of money you make somewhere, influence your career choice, especially in aviation,, theres too many other factors.
 
What a Winner!

Definitely sounds like someone we bounced out of training on the second day because he flew like an orangoutang on heroin.
 

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