quick question

[minitour]

I repeat the runway location back at airports with multiple runways because I want to avoid runway incursions. If I am at an airport with multiple runways, especially those with mulitple parallel runways (i.e. 21 L, 21 C, and 21 R) or airports that frequently use intersection take-offs, I always feel it is best to re-affirm the location. This is not just for the folks in the tower, but those on the ground and in the pattern.

I agree...I always read back the location I'm taking off at ("Cleared for takeoff 21" - or - "Clear for takeoff 21 at A1") before I cross the hold short line. This way if perhaps tower thought I was somewhere else, I can avoid a runway incursion.

For the pilot-controlled fields (sounds better to the non-pilot public than "uncontrolled") I usually just say "___ traffic, cessna 123 taking off runway 12 departing to the west"

-mini

 

[Fly_Chick]

This is the same reason I have the students not only clear the final approach but also the departure end while lining up on centerline for takeoff.

Let's not forget Sarasota... http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X20686&key=1

and Tenerife... http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/Response2.asp?spage=2&x_page_size=10&sql=%271%2F1%2F1970%27%2C+%273%2F22%2F2005%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27like+%27%27FATAL%28%25%27%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27ev%5Fdate%27%2C+%27Desc%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27Spain%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27%2C+%27%27

 

[qmaster3]

what's the correct radio call for departure from an untowered r/w?
"cessnaxxxxx departing rw21" got me told that is for towered airports.

"just do what the AIM tells you"

Quoted from qmasters CFII when answer is not mentally accessible.

 

[hangar7guy]

Reason I always include "any traffic in the area please advise" is because sometimes you might have someone coming into the airport 5-10 miles out that might be monitoring the frequency but has yet to make their initial radio call. Sometimes when people monitor a frequency and don't hear any traffic, they are a lot more laxed and dont necessarily make the required callouts that they should, because they think they're the only ones around.

All very good points.

My (cynical) observation is that the people who don't bother to make those timely, appropriate calls you've mentioned usually aren't going to bother doing so just because I'm reminding them to do so.

Another thing that happens all too frequently when two or three people in the area hear a "please advise" announcement is that they all respond by keying their mikes simultaneously. ("SCREEEEEECH is two miles SCREEECH of the airport...") [Sigh]

But again, I see your point.

 

[User546]

Another thing that happens all too frequently when two or three people in the area hear a "please advise" announcement is that they all respond by keying their mikes simultaneously. ("SCREEEEEECH is two miles SCREEECH of the airport...") [Sigh]

LOL... so true, so true!

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

I was always taught to say the airport name first followed by traffic, intentions and ending it with the airport name. "Lewis traffic skylane 3033 november entering left 45 for 9 Lewis"

 

[Metro752]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddd Lewis Traffic


After about 5 goons up there call in a row all being cute and funny by extending the unecessary word "And" I have already taken off, gone around the pattern, and landed at Morris.


122.8 is busy as hell.

 

[flyifrvfr]

When at a controlled airport ( towered ) the radio procedure I use is to first taxi up to the hold short line and call tower. " Martin Tower, Cessna 12345 ready for departure runway 33 full length." You are telling the tower you are ready to take-off and you are using the full length of the runway. If you are departing using an intersection, you are required to tell ground before taxiing and tell tower when you are ready to go.

" Martin Ground, Cessna 12345 request intersection charlie departure." Cessna 345 Martin Ground, taxi runway 33 intersection charlie approved."

 

[Vector4fun]

Before we got the Cessna, I really hadn't done a lot of flying the last decade, especially at un-towered airports. The past year though, I have really begun to appreciate why all the moaning and groaning over unicom calls. There's folks out there who can talk for 45 seconds straight and say nothing useful. Or ya get two or three controller wannabes in the area, and they start "suggesting" how the other folks should enter/fly their pattern. It's really a sad specticle. Four pilots who know how to fly and talk efficiently can be drinking coffee in the lounge before those other clowns decide which runway should be active....