Questionable Twin Time

[TIGV]

If you think keeping a factual tally and insisting just because you have a signature per page that your flight time must be correct you need to board the next saturn mission.

I ensure that all the hours I use toward anything legal can be backed by some form of alternate documentation and a counter-signature or other form of company, flightschool or Instructor/IP evidence.

You honestly don't remember putting anything at all in the remarks section during your Private training or hour building that stood out as having been particularly impressive or awe inspiring and may or may not have had anything directly to do with your flying?

I love seeing some of the Pseudo-intellectualism on this site, actually makes me sick to my stomach that I have to explain something so simple in painful detail, perhaps I should not have assumed that it's:
Patently Logical to ALWAYS back up that flight time you will need to prove to someone.

" I took a ride in a homebuilt with half a V-Dub engine, **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** thing was made by Two by fours and it's method of control still somewhat of a mystery, or I suspect, as the wind blew through the manically grinning old man's hair that some form witchery was afoot to keep us aloft "

I'd best not have this entry in my logbook at all huh A-Squared, happened many many moons ago before I got my Commercial, I still grin when I read it but hey let me eradicate that little gem, something that keeps the subjects memory alive, for alas he is no more ( Old age took him ) before the jackbooted hordes tramp right out of A squared's mind and nuke what's left of the tattered future of my career.

Dude, loosen up a little, enjoy your flying, most of all enjoy the heck out most of the flying folk you meet and yah why not know what's legal and what's not, for us Proffesionals it's required ya know.

 

[cougar6903]

Looks like a cool plane. I'd trade a few of my hours in the seminole for a few hours in one.

 

[A Squared]

TIGV,

You've read much into my post which really isn't there. I didn't say anything about what you can or cannot put in the remarks section, I have and still do write things not directly related to the actual facts of the flight in my own logbook. You'll notice though that I didn't say you couldn't in my preious post. The idea that you can't write personal observations in your logbook is absurd and certainly not waht I said. You're arguing points which were never made. I assume that you're doing this because you are unable to address the actual point. Yes, you can write irrelevancies in your logbook, you can fill out a line with the news that on that date you had your first son, your dog died or you divorced your wife of 25 years. However, if you start putting in flight time which you are not legally entitled to log, and you enter numbers in the flight time columns, you are in fact falsifying your flight time, and the FAA may violate you for it.

Here's a NTSB decision in which some pilots put bogus time in thier logbooks, when caught, they tried to beat the violation by claiming that it wasn't falsification because they didn't use it to qualify for a rating or to meet some other requirement.
http://www.ntsb.gov/alj/O_n_O/docs/aviation/4260.PDF

They lost. here's what the NTSB had to say about it:

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In essence, the respondents are contending that it is permissible for an airman to knowingly fabricate a logbook entry as long as the entry is not one that he is using at that time to obtain a higher rating or to stay current. We disagree, and have said as much before. See Administrator v. Turner, NTSB Order No. EA-3748 at 3, n.5 (1992) (The regulation prohibiting logbook falsifications applies to entries "that are or may be 'used' to show compliance with 'any requirement for the issuance, or exercise of the privileges, [of] any certificate or rating,' not just ... those entries that are needed to demonstrate compliance"). Administrator v. Cassis, 4 NTSB 555, 557 (1982), aff'd, 737 F.2d 545 (6th Cir. 1984).8

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I think that pretty shows pretty clearly the position of the FAA and the NTSB is exactly as I've described. Like I said, write whatever "dear diary" type entries you want, but if you put numbers in flight time columns, you're required to make truthful entries.

"....and yah why not know what's legal and what's not, for us Proffesionals it's required ya know."

yeah, my feelings exactly, know what's legal and what is not, and putting bogus time in your logbook is not.

 

[TIGV]

...Sigh...

 

[Flyin Tony]

In effect, all is included except paint & intruments Price at [size=+4]$82,560.00 [/size]
Airframe Kit only [size=+3]$58,648.00[/size]

I just Shat myself

 

[88_MALIBU]

Yea it isnt the cheapest to purchase, but only burns 2.5 gallons/hour on car gas. I flew it the other day and still have the grin on my face. Something about 20' above the river at 60 mph listening to satellite radio makes me smile.

 

[Vik]

No kidding .. you could buy a ready to go, IFR ready, fresh annual'd twin for that muhc.