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surplus1 said:
Enigma,

Boy, you sure surprised me with your pprune post (the long one).
As for the rest of the folks over there, until recently, isn't that were most of our ancestors came from? Why can't we just get along?

Commute to work day, not much time.

That's why I call myself enigma.

We can't get along because of human nature, and the fact is that the world is governed by the agressive use of force.

regards,
8N

BTW, I didn't mean to bash anyone, and I don't think I did so. I did mean to convey that we could manage to survive just fine as an isolated country. Maybe Exxon/Mobil, Ford, GE, GM, etc wouldn't make as much money, but we could manage just fine.
 
Liberals by there very nature cannot and will not protect anyone. They work tirelessly to disarm all but the elite in this country, those who can afford to hire private bonded armed guards or build an estate with walls, gates and half a million dollar security systems.

For people like you and I they want us subservient to the state.

Liberals hate freedom, the very thought that you or I can make our own decisions and live our own lives without government intervention goes completely against the grain of every principal they hold dear. Liberals are not lovers of freedom. Liberals believe that the average person is simply too ignorant to be free. They believe that the average person can only live a fulfilling life with the help and guidance of those who are more qualified, capable and intelligent – and that, of course, would be the leftist intelligentsia.


Liberals hate Christianity; Christianity is a hindrance to liberal ideas of progressive social relations. It must be removed. This is a cardinal tenet of liberalism today, and it is clear why there is no desire among the left to promote the Christian faith, why they defend abortion, homosexuality, pre and extramarital sex, and almost every other vile crudity that pervades our country: men must be "free," and Christianity is the greatest obstacle to that freedom and does all sorts of evil to prevent people from being "free" In the liberal mind, "freedom" equals "progress," so, Christianity must be eliminated, or at least relegated to a noninfluential role in society's affairs.

Liberals hate guns, Liberals made that association long ago. They know that people cannot fight for or preserve freedom unless they have the means to do so – and that means guns.

Liberals hate wealth, they say, on grounds of economic injustice—as though prosperity were a pizza, and if I have too many slices, you’re left with nothing but a Domino’s box to feed your family. Liberals actually hate wealth because they hate all success; wealth is, for most people, the only honest and likely path to liberty. But liberals aren’t very interested in such real and material freedoms. They have a more innocent—not to say toddler-like—idea of freedom. Liberals want the freedom to put anything into their mouths, to say bad words and to expose their private parts in art museums.

Along those same lines, liberals hate capitalism in general.
Another item in the liberal creed, after self-righteousness, is unaccountability. Liberals have invented whole college majors—psychology, sociology, and women’s studies—to prove that nothing is anybody’s fault. No one is fond of taking responsibility for his actions, but consider how much you’d have to hate free will to come up with a political platform that advocates killing unborn babies but not convicted murderers. A callous pragmatist might favor abortion and capital punishment.

Liberals love government. They love coercive government. If there were a revolutionary war today, it would not be the liberals waiting to see the whites of their eyes.

Liberals love politically correct ideas, speech and of course thoughts. They believe in revisionist history and forgetting the past. They love entitlement, wealth redistribution and eliminating the upper class.

To say liberals are there to protect us is akin to saying al Qaeda is there to educate us. While it is possible it is very very highly impracticable.

The liberals we have here in the USA are kittens compared to the liberals, socialist the Europeans have to contend with. Just to give you an example the Labour Party in Britain, one of their founding members was a co-author of the communist manifesto; this is the party in power currently. Countries like France are a lost cause, they would rather lock up people who try to defend themselves than the criminal, so to Britain.

Germany just reelected a Socialist government and would rather surrender to the terrorist and await a nuclear bomb blast, chemical attack or the unleashing of a biological entity upon the world than to act now.

Liberals are not our friends; they may be yours but… that surly says a lot about you. I live in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia; living-breathing proof of exactly what the infancy of a liberal/socialist utopia would look like.

LA
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>>>>>>First of all, PPRuNe is based in Australia.

PPRuNe is very much British. I used to be a avid PPRuNer, years ago, when it was a smaller board. I've corresponded with Danny Fyne, the PPRuNe founder and I can assure you that he's British. Now, I haven't logged onto PPRuNe for a few years. Danny might have changed the board to an Australian server (possibly to avoid the numerous lawsuit threats he receieved from people who didn't like someone's opinion) but the board originated in Britian.

Note there *are* a lot of Australian contributors. you guys think the brits are into US bashing, you should see what thney have to say about the Ozzies.


regards


regards
 
I read that board once and a while and watch BBC news all the time. There is some benefit to seeing other opinions and how other countries view the U.S., it doesn't mean I agree with alot of what is said. One major thing I like about the Europeans is that they have a much broader "international viewpoint", you can tell this just by looking at their news versus our "80 seconds" around the world news blurbs.

And to you British guys. Britain and its people are great. I haven't seen any anti-American attitudes when visiting, just the opposite actually. The French, ahh the French, well I won't say anything on that...
 
LA,
Amen brother. More later when I have time.
God Bless Jesse Helms!!
 
Hey Surplus

You're guilty of reading way too much into my post. I've got a reserve day tommorrow, I'll respond then.

regards,
8N

BTW, I'll match my knowledge of history with any sample of people you can put together. Just because I didn't have time to address the war for independence from King George, doesn't mean that I am unaware of the role played by the French.

Edit: PS. I just went back and reread my "long" post. I think that maybe you were still riled up over someone elses post when you responded to me. When read carefully, I'm only advocating that the US of A stay out of other country's business. I could have worded some of the post a little better(especially the part about kicking out the immigrants), I'll try and rewrite it for clarity.
 
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surplus1 said:

Let "us" not forget that the Marshall plan was not a "gift". Most of it was money we loaned and most of it has been repaid, with the notable exception of Great Britain.

The only nation that has fully paid it's WWII debt completely is Finland.

Chunk
 
A lot of forums originating in the US has had a tendency of very agressive replys.
Lets keep the ditchdigging and fundamentalist views out of this otherwise excellent discussion.

To quote ol' Maggie Thather (from memory):

In international politics you have no friends, you just take advantage of people with common interests!

Period!

It is very naive to think that isolationism will cure illnesses of this country. Its like yelling to the driver:
-Stop the world, I want to get off.

Anyway, as the pilot will tell his date after 5 hours: Enough about me, lets talk about airplanes!
 
i]Originally posted by Aerosmith [/i]



Lets keep the ditchdigging and fundamentalist views out of this otherwise excellent discussion.
That's a typical liberal response. Differ if you want, but I will not be dismissed. If you don't like LA's religious views (fudementalist), then post a response, please don't just attempt to dismiss them. It shows just how little respect "tolerant" people have for others views.

It is very naive to think that isolationism will cure illnesses of this country. [/B]


Who said anything about the "illnesses of this country? I only said that the US of A should give the rest of the world what it wants and stay out of their business.

regards,
8N
 
"God Bless Jesse Helms!!"


Oh ............ my ............ god! I don't believe he said that.

Minh "Liberal" Thong :D
 

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