Question for the Frontier guys/gals

JetFumes

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Now that oil is dropping through the floor, are things looking up over there? SWA has lost its hedge advantage I'm assuming (not slamming SWA). Just want to see a good company keep on keepin on.
 

hockeypilot44

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What are the chances of the company giving back the pilot group their old salaries now that fuel cost is under control?
 

Cornelius

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0 chance. The company is trying to save as much money as they can so they can get financing to exit bankruptsy.
 

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Is there still 2 exit financing plans still be worked on (including the one from Republic)?
 

hockeypilot44

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0 chance. The company is trying to save as much money as they can so they can get financing to exit bankruptsy.

Lol. When the company finally exits bankruptcy, huge bonuses will be paid to the executives, and the pilots will still be under the same concessionary contract. This will play out just like every other bankruptcy. We are a disgrace to real labor groups that actually stand up for themselves.
 

727Niteflyer

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so you want to fix the problem ? The day you exit bankruptcy and it becomes public about bonuses, every frontier employee stays home. The public is sick of executives getting bonuses and the employees taking it in the shorts. Bottom line stop the aircraft and you will get what you want.
 

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******************** all of this, I hope the lynx pilots stand up and shut the POS company down
 

starchkr

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CFI...huh? Lynx pilots shut down the company? Yeah, that will happen.

I would say we have a 0 percent chance of getting book rates back...why, because this pilot group will give the company whatever it wants. Sad, but true. Now, F9 guys on here, prove me wrong...and i hope the rest of the pilot group finally does as well! The best news is that the concessionary contract expires in 7 days with no new contract to vote on, so maybe we will see book rates for a little while.

As far as the 2 "exit" financing plans...i don't think we even have one plan yet, let alone two. The two plans i believe you speak of were the DIP offers we received so that we could continue operating while "in" bankruptcy while we searched for a financer to get out of bankruptcy.

hockeypilot is right, they will get bonuses...it has already been said by a VP that they "will" get an equity stake in the company upon exit. And yes, they already have been adamant that the pilot group will NOT be included in any equity stake.
 

727Niteflyer

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CFI...huh? Lynx pilots shut down the company? Yeah, that will happen.

I would say we have a 0 percent chance of getting book rates back...why, because this pilot group will give the company whatever it wants. Sad, but true. Now, F9 guys on here, prove me wrong...and i hope the rest of the pilot group finally does as well! The best news is that the concessionary contract expires in 7 days with no new contract to vote on, so maybe we will see book rates for a little while.

As far as the 2 "exit" financing plans...i don't think we even have one plan yet, let alone two. The two plans i believe you speak of were the DIP offers we received so that we could continue operating while "in" bankruptcy while we searched for a financer to get out of bankruptcy.

hockeypilot is right, they will get bonuses...it has already been said by a VP that they "will" get an equity stake in the company upon exit. And yes, they already have been adamant that the pilot group will NOT be included in any equity stake.
So the pilot group should be adamant that if they get bonuses the execs can go fly the aircraft. Its really simple yet nobody has the guts. Dont move the aircraft. Be adamant and send them the message.
 

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Lol. When the company finally exits bankruptcy, huge bonuses will be paid to the executives, and the pilots will still be under the same concessionary contract. This will play out just like every other bankruptcy. We are a disgrace to real labor groups that actually stand up for themselves.
Oh no, not at F9. After all we're all a "family" here and we're (management/labor) "all in this together". No room for hypocrisy.
 
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